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I mean, have you seen the common folk?
and what makes you think you are better than them?
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 2 brothers who were killed were notorious gangsters involved in 100+ cases of murders, loot, kidnapping etc. At least read-up before trying to win with your ignorance. India has Buddhists, Parsis, Jains, Zoroastrian as “true” minorities. They don’t have any problems in India. In fact they are among the most prosperous folks. Why is that only Muslims have problem everywhere on the globe? France, US, UK, Israel and…
Great that you poured your heart out for others to read. Made my job much easier.
The last part is a common knowledge. Don’t worry.
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#103Yesterday I learned that Canada is the fourth oldest ongoing democracy, measured as beginning in 1867. I think given our short lifespans, anything that our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents enjoyed is really easy to perceive as a steady state. Something to take for granted as being invariant. But it’s really not. While it’s possible to debate the specifics and semantics, this really brought into focus, fo…
> just how young modern democracy is with a rather unproven durability.
Everything else has a rather more proven record of squandering human potential, of being iniquitous & unjust.
Not my favorite person, but the quip still seems fair:
> Democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried. - Winston Churchill
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#104If a substantial portion of society easily falls for misinformation, then the solution is not to bring in a centralized entity to "fact check". The solution is to improve educational standards so people can use critical thinking skills to assess the validity of claims. Misinformation is not a threat to democracy, lack of critical thinking is. The day people willingly outsource their critical thinking will be the day democracy collapses.
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#105Interesting, because Indian Government recently jailed an independent fact checker for a tweet he made 4 years ago. This new body seems to be a tool to suppress dissent and promote the fake news machinery Government and the ruling party is notorious for. https://www.cnbctv18.com/india/alt-news-pratik-sinha-mohamma...
Altnews the left wing version of Tucker Carlson. I'd go as far as to say that if Alt-news told me there was no Earthquake in my house, my first instinct would be to find cover. Local and politicized news in India is notoriously biased. But the direction of the bias varies from news org to news org. Somehow, American & British news orgs are notorious for giving megaphones to the worst faith actors within Indian politi…
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s the usual protocol of astroturfing. Accuse the whistleblower of something vague and discard them with name calling. Straight out of playbook of authoritarian governments. Nothing new. I searched the name Nupur Sharma and it gave me this article which explains everything. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61716241.amp It says that the fact checker shared a video of what she said.
The fact that you have to search for the name shows you are not enough clued in about what is happening in India. Wish you take some time out and get the facts straight from some Indian friends to understand both side of the story. It will become a long comment, all I can say , BBC, NyTimes etc has some axe to grind with the current dispensation.
Being Indian, I am clued in well enough.
I understand by "Indian friends" you mean upper caste Hindu Indian friends who are Modi acolytes and his primary voting demographic. Not Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Dalits or Shudras who form greater than 50% of the Indian population.
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Ten years ago I would have agreed. Today? I'm not sure you're right about which is the greater threat. Yes, state censorship can be abused. But promoting misinformation is a known threat to Democracy today . Right now. I'm not sure what the real answer should be. If "the market" manages to get the propaganda farms' misinformation under control, then great. If they don't , the only answer I can see is for government t…
> I'm not sure what the real answer should be. the real answer is full transparency. Someone posting a lie is only a problem when no one is allowed to challenge it, and when you allow censorship you are giving someone the authority to prevent challenges to both truth and lies at the same time. The Constitution has problems and I've love to see some changes to it, but freedom of speech is not something we should aband…
> the real answer is full transparency. Someone posting a lie is only a problem when no one is allowed to challenge it, and when you allow censorship you are giving someone the authority to prevent challenges to both truth and lies at the same time.
We just had the lesson on what the problem with "full transparency" is 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35567904
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#108https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1914358
This is the actual draft of the press release. Couldnt find the amendment. Its talking about online gaming. Regulations are with respect to content with self harm and betting. There's no appeals process listed but it does not state general fact checking powers. This source is listed twice in the article and online gaming is mentioned right at the beginning.
Is restofwoorld actually something credible (I dont really know) ?
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#109Interesting, because Indian Government recently jailed an independent fact checker for a tweet he made 4 years ago. This new body seems to be a tool to suppress dissent and promote the fake news machinery Government and the ruling party is notorious for. https://www.cnbctv18.com/india/alt-news-pratik-sinha-mohamma...
India has one of the most robust Internet trolling, astroturfing apparatus in the world. You will not be treated well if you criticise the government.
That doesn't match my experience. My ex-colleagues and I used to criticize the government regularly, and publicly, when I lived there, and we faced no hostility or opposition.
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You got sources for this claim? If he has done anything wrong, why is he not in jail for that?
Sure. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bjps-nupur-sharma-...
Nupur Sharma claims.
Apparently, death threats and actual deaths and rapes should only happen to Dalits and Muslims via periodically organized riots. It's also a great idea to jail the lawyer of the survivor of a lynch mob, Teesta Setalvad. Indias Supreme court is pleased.