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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by Zach_the_Lizard »

avar wrote: post #57
nosequel wrote: post #28

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As someone who owns a truck (F150) and uses it for truck-like things (wood, rocks, concrete, towing, etc.), I would never be caught dead going to the local lumber yard or landscaping yard in a Cybertruck. The Rivian and Ford at least look like trucks.

Other flaws aside, the "look" seems much more practical than the F150 et al. It's got large flat surfaces made of stainless steel, you'll be able to weld or bolt modifications (e.g. toolboxes) directly to the body.

It was (is?) common in the days of steel bodied trucks to cut out and weld, bolt, or rivet things like tool boxes, extra gas tanks, etc. into the otherwise useless space. Many aftermarket options that matched body contours as well.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bryanlarsen »

threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

"Just build a normal truck" will mean adding an extra 2-5 years before production. I'm confident that will make things worse, not better.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

crazygringo wrote: post #69
bottlepalm wrote: post #62

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Wait you think they brought the vehicle to a crash testing facility, wired it up with sensors, painted all the structural components for identification and then didn't actually crash it? Talk about conspiracy theories, wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o

Of course I do. It's called marketing. It's a relatively cheap commercial to make, and the fact that it went viral proves it was a good use of budget. Setting up fake scenarios is basically every TV commercial ever. That doesn't make them conspiracies. Also it was April 1. It was a joke video, get it?

Tesla doesn't waste their time on crap like that. It's why they barely have anyone working in marketing or PR in the first place. The video was made from actual test footage, super quick, and they kicked it out.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by clouddrover »

slashdev wrote: post #30
at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

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>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

> impact resistant glass

Don't be suckered by Tesla's advertising drivel, and certainly don't repeat it.

Here's the glass of a VW Golf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU

Tesla's dog and pony show is for credulous rubes. You don't need to be one of those.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by swalling »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #72
threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

"Just build a normal truck" will mean adding an extra 2-5 years before production. I'm confident that will make things worse, not better.

The current product is not even remotely one that can compete in the market. It has to be redesigned, or they’re going to end up shipping the Pontiac Aztek of EV trucks.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rimunroe »

bottlepalm wrote: post #58
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #16

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It doesn’t matter. You can’t buy it. This is like reading developers say, “We’re almost done!” and you’ve only now pushed to the test environment. No QA, no UAT, nothing. If it’s not in production, it doesn’t exist.

I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.

The defining feature of vaporware is that the product gets announced and then either isn't released or isn't released for a very long time. The term has nothing to do with the amount of resources being poured into it.

One of the most famous examples of vaporware was the game Duke Nukem Forever, which started development in 1996, was announced in 1997, and wasn't released until 2011. I believe it was in nearly continuous development during that time. The size of the team working on it shrank and grew, but over time that seems like a massive investment. It doesn't change the fact that it was vaporware though.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

threeseed wrote: post #68
bottlepalm wrote: post #58

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I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.

And how about Solar City, Boring Company, Twitter. Musk doesn't exactly have a perfect track record.

I can't hear you over all the things being accomplished

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by philwelch »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #51
matthewdgreen wrote: post #40

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The Model Y has a very conventional style, so the fact that it sells well would seem to be a point in favor of the GP’s argument. It also sells in many continents, which Cybertruck might not be able to do.

Consider Tesla did not copy existing manufacturers. They built their own markets (S->X->3->Y). People complain online loudly about the touchscreen, quality, but I'll be damned, these units get moved regardless (well on our way to almost 3M/year [1]). For example, Harley can't woo younger riders to the brand because their attempt to acquire them turns off older Harley fans who are slowly dying out. Tesla doesn't have…

The original Tesla Roadster was based on a Lotus chassis, and the models after that weren’t major deviations from the norm (aside from maybe the gull wings, but even those have some design heritage). Elon was a car guy before Tesla—one of his first splurges when he got rich was a McLaren F1, which he infamously crashed with Peter Thiel in the passenger seat—and as a result, Tesla cars all seem reminiscent of European sports cars. He’s not a truck guy, though. So while his personal tastes have been beneficial for Tesla in the past, I think they miss the mark with Cybertruck.

Also, trucks are functional vehicles, and Cybertruck violates a lot of common functionality that most “legacy” trucks have. There are probably a lot of people who drive trucks who don’t need that functionality—i.e. poseurs—and maybe some of them will buy Cybertrucks.

Cf. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331546

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Post by askvictor »

smeyer wrote: post #50
slashdev wrote: post #30

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Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

>extremely safe Do you care about the safety of others, or only yourself? You listed safety second in your list of positives, but I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety.

Safety of others is the domain of the government or regulator. And that, unfortunately, relies on the government being competent, and free from corporate influence. Neither of which are really the case in the US (nor much of the world).

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by crazygringo »

bottlepalm wrote: post #73
crazygringo wrote: post #69

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Of course I do. It's called marketing. It's a relatively cheap commercial to make, and the fact that it went viral proves it was a good use of budget. Setting up fake scenarios is basically every TV commercial ever. That doesn't make them conspiracies. Also it was April 1. It was a joke video, get it?

Tesla doesn't waste their time on crap like that. It's why they barely have anyone working in marketing or PR in the first place. The video was made from actual test footage, super quick, and they kicked it out.

...you think a real crash test would have a bunch of random people behind a window looking shocked like that? There's nothing more staged.

Obviously yes this was put out by marketing. And again, you are completely ignoring April fools.

The intention is for the viewer to be in on the joke... I mean, it's pretty funny. It's excellent marketing. Just don't confuse it for the real thing.

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