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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by asynchronous »

threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

Yeah because Tesla is doing so poorly as of late /s The Model 3/Y’s success must be entirely independent of Musk’s leadership huh?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by agumonkey »

jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

I believe there's a not so small crowd of people who want videogame like thing in real life. Now how many people in that crowd have the money for an EV truck.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

asynchronous wrote: post #36
bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

All the media writes is hit pieces on Tesla. They’re an easy target without a PR department, after all.

Very easy clicks, helps 'journalists' get that next promotion while providing zero useful information.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by nashashmi »

This is incredibly messed up. If I'm a shareholder with a conscience against alcohol and beer, this goes against every nerve in my body. It's like Tesla announcing hemp CBD smoke vapor. Since when did I agree to become a drug dealer? Or a black water vendor?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rainsford »

threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

I don't disagree that Musk probably isn't doing Tesla any favors lately, but even absent Musk, does the company actually know how to directly compete against established car makers in the same market segment? Tesla benefited a lot from being first with the "electric cars are cool now" approach, and they've been able to ride that early momentum pretty far as the other automakers struggled to catch up.

Now all the other companies are coming out with competing EVs, it's not obvious Tesla as a company has moved beyond a strategy based on being your only nice EV option to actually being better than the competition. The Cybertruck is an absolute joke for the truck market compared to competitor vehicles, which also have the advantage of being products you can actually purchase.

But even beyond the Cybertruck, the rest of the Tesla product lineup isn't the obvious choice it was even a few years ago. You can get a lot of nice EVs these days made by companies that also have a long history of being good at building cars in general and that you're fairly confident will be around for decades to come. Early on, the basic argument for Tesla was obvious...they were basically the only option for a cool, upscale EV. What's their marketing pitch in 2023?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by threeseed »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #31
threeseed wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet Porsche, Range Rover, Rivian etc manage to sell the same cars globally. I'm not a rocket science/engineering/business genius like Musk but pretty sure having one design that may require some minor regional modifications is going to be significantly cheaper than having two completely different cars.

Porsche (~300k units/year) and Range Rover (~90k units/year) are niche brands, Rivian isn't even profitable and a volume manufacturer. Conversely, the Model Y was the US' 6th best selling vehicle last year [1], is currently the 4th best selling vehicle in 2023, and will likely the world's best selling car in 2023 [2] based on demand and supply forecasts. [1] https://insideevs.com/news/629993/tesla-model-y-6th-bestsel…

Porsche and Range Rover are popular in the SUV space. But please explain the thought process.

That if a company is popular and profitable they should always build an entirely different product for each country. Makes you wonder why tiny companies like Apple and Nike don't follow this brilliant idea.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by oh_sigh »

nosequel wrote: post #28
jimnotgym wrote: post #17

The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.

As someone who owns a truck (F150) and uses it for truck-like things (wood, rocks, concrete, towing, etc.), I would never be caught dead going to the local lumber yard or landscaping yard in a Cybertruck. The Rivian and Ford at least look like trucks.

You care enough about what some random Joe down at the lumberyard might think of you to base your car purchase decision on that? What if the guys there will laugh at any electric vehicle? Better stick with gas, or better yet diesel, and be a real man. And don't even think of bringing anything with a bed less than 80" in there.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

zactato wrote: post #15
bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

I'm not sure that video is evidence for anything more than a single cybertruck existing.

That was in California, plus we know at least one crash tested, and here's one in Texas in a wind tunnel - so at least 3 .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOtH-ao7b8

Seriously you think this is vaporware? They're building an entire factory for something else?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by crazygringo »

bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

Going through crash testing?

Are you referring to the viral April fools video they released a couple weeks ago showing "crash testing" without any crash? Which was presumably just very slow driving with the video sped up, because they didn't want to damage their prototype?

If you were doing real crash testing you wanted to show off, you wouldn't skip the actual crash... It was a joke.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by smeyer »

slashdev wrote: post #30
at-fates-hands wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?

Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

>extremely safe

Do you care about the safety of others, or only yourself? You listed safety second in your list of positives, but I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety.

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