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12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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> Ten-hour days, five or six days a week, in North Carolina's summer heat. This is the problem, not the age of the child or the crop. Spending an occasional weekend working a few hours in a field sounds perfectly fine and character-building for a 12-year-old. More 12 year olds should be getting outside and tasting manual labor! The issue is when this starts being less of a learning experience and more of an actual fu…

12 is a little young I think. They should be outside playing, not outside working. Getting a scrape on the knee will build character enough for a child.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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post #19
post #10

imo 12 year old working a field is ok

Ok, what about a 9 year old? Where do you draw the line and why?

Depends on the job and working hours.

Basically anything that can prevent reasonable development should be banned, such as too heavy labour.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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post #8

> Ten-hour days, five or six days a week, in North Carolina's summer heat. This is the problem, not the age of the child or the crop. Spending an occasional weekend working a few hours in a field sounds perfectly fine and character-building for a 12-year-old. More 12 year olds should be getting outside and tasting manual labor! The issue is when this starts being less of a learning experience and more of an actual fu…

There's a big difference between helping your dad in the shop and working in a field for a (basically) nameless entity.

I don't think anyone really has a problem with the kid who is "working" at his dad's convenience store, though I do feel for the kids working in chinese restaurants.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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My grandfather had to herd sheep up in the mountains at 6 years old. Incidentally he brought with him a pipe and some vanilla flavored tobacco. Currently 90 and going strong.

I'd kinda agree with your take is these kids are working in their own fields (or soon to be theirs, as transmitted from the current owner, who treats them like his own kids)

Short of that, fuck no your granpa's story has nothing to do with this.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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post #15
post #8

> Ten-hour days, five or six days a week, in North Carolina's summer heat. This is the problem, not the age of the child or the crop. Spending an occasional weekend working a few hours in a field sounds perfectly fine and character-building for a 12-year-old. More 12 year olds should be getting outside and tasting manual labor! The issue is when this starts being less of a learning experience and more of an actual fu…

12 year olds are generally prepubescent children. This isn't like a sixteen year old working to save for a car, or even a fourteen year old gaining a little independence and exercise working a few hours after school. This is child labour. It's indefensible.

I worked in strawberry fields during summer months at about 12 years old or younger. I actually enjoyed it and loved the money I made to be able to buy some Nintendo games or candies. More kids should be learning some job skills early and get out of the house.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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post #15
post #8

> Ten-hour days, five or six days a week, in North Carolina's summer heat. This is the problem, not the age of the child or the crop. Spending an occasional weekend working a few hours in a field sounds perfectly fine and character-building for a 12-year-old. More 12 year olds should be getting outside and tasting manual labor! The issue is when this starts being less of a learning experience and more of an actual fu…

12 year olds are generally prepubescent children. This isn't like a sixteen year old working to save for a car, or even a fourteen year old gaining a little independence and exercise working a few hours after school. This is child labour. It's indefensible.

Children can certainly be abused for labor, but they can also get a lot out of it, and it's at least defensible in that case. I worked in construction for my father at that age. I was well looked after, was able to do actually useful work to help him, learned things and got paid. If I had been prevented from doing that by child labor laws it would have been a loss for everyone involved.

Re: 12-year-olds can't buy cigarettes – but they can work in tobacco fields

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post #13

18-year olds can't buy alcohol, but they can die fighting for oil companies.

They surely can, starting at 16-year olds in plenty of countries.

Not in the one being discussed in the article. I'm not an American myself, but I think the context is clear here.
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