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Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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why would you develop such dependency on a proprietary piece of code? > I'd even say, perhaps it's best not to tell people that their problems aren't problems to begin with. I'm not saying one should care, it'd be enough just not to explicitly dismiss on their face. generally speaking, the opposite is true - people need to take some accountability for their problems, thanks to the disintegration of conversation peopl…

The open source keyboard space on Android is weirdly incredibly deficient No way to type Chinese with an open source keyboard. And no way to do local speak-to-text (even English) with an open source keyboard

yep well, as far as I'm concerned they're all crap including SwiftKey esp. when compared with using a properly set-up computer

phones aren't great for input, and perhaps won't be in the foreseeable future, but using proprietary closed keyboards with no roughly-equivalent alternatives just compounds the problem

every time I want to type something substantial, in any language, I wait until I have access to a computer; it's particularly bad in Japanese and Chinese in my experience, but it's not great in any language - in Asian languages you'd get good over time with some specific system (say 4-corners, zhuyin, kana/conv, and specific predictive dictionaries) and then have support end, so why even bother?

Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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SwiftKey was such a good keyboard app. It's a pity it's being ruined by Microsoft. I do hope someone will create a good keyboard with a sustainable business model: charge a fair subscription price.

How is it "being ruined"? I use it every day and it works fine.

Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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Exactly. And kudos to them for not removing the Swiftkey either during that time, even if they were not updating it anymore. It was a nice, functional piece of software albeit with some bugs.

Worth noting that they did announce they were discontinuing it and removed it from the app store in October, then brought it back quickly after.

Just to put the Bing button on? Not smart. But I'm glad they updated.

(I'm using edge with bing button and SwiftKey with Bing button.)

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Many nato members are already providing much more than the US per capita.

First I disagree with using per capita numbers, that is in improper way to judge this type of thing. However even if we look at the percapita number, the US out spend all other nato nations. Between January 24 and November 20, 2022, NATO members committed at least 75.2 billion euros of that 47.8 came from the US. Per Capita for that period breaks down as US: 142 Euros / citizen UK: 117 Euros / Citizen Canada: 96 Euro…

Where do they commit this money? As in: what does it pay for exactly?

Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does swiftkey offer over the usual keyboard? A quick google seems to bring up "better predictive text" and "better multi-language support" - is that it?

Swiping is a blessing on iPhone Mini, but it's not available in my language for some reason. Multilingual input, I can just start typing in English or Czech and two words in, the keyboard knows. And even for normal tap-typing, the accuracy is a bit better because the keyboard apparently learns from your mistakes and basically builds a virtual keyboard with shifted letters underneath the visible one. (to be clear I'm…

I don't stare at my keyboards, so I never noticed the Bing key, but I just checked, and indeed, it's there. (Now I'm wondering if I will now keep seeing it..!?)

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It is not a jump. When it comes to genocide, you are either for it or against. There is no center, no above, no neutral. The only other option is being unaware. What is being done in the west is people continuously being made aware and forced to make a choice. It's not a pleasant choice to make either way, so it's understandable that people are not happy to have to make it. But trying to carve out a neutral position…

> is not going to work. What are you going to do about it, tiger? You can't force anybody to think the way you want them to think. You are only going to frustrate yourself with your power trip fantasy.

Expecting people to adhere to humane values is not a power trip fantasy.

Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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Alternative theory - When the iOS application was discontinued and they had removed it from the app store in October, they redirected their support site to just the android version FAQ's and have forgotten to switch it back. Thus iOS support is just at: https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/categories/200371942-i... As a further note, Microsoft support is centralised at support.microsoft.com and it appears that they…

Do either of those links point to a way to give feedback or otherwise actually discuss the addition of Bing-related features?

Not directly, other than their Facebook where people are giving feedback.

As an aside, I suspect these bing-related features are the only reason the product was brought back from the dead. Looks like Microsoft are adding features to allow you to help author text supported by GPT (e.g. change the tone of the message, rewrite portions from the keyboard etc)

Re: Microsoft deleted the public support forums for SwiftKey

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Its funny that Microsoft didn't care to update their SwiftKey keyboard for new iOS versions for years and let it become a broken mess, and then when they finally release an update it's because of a fucking Bing button. And since the update also actually fixes a lot of issues it looks like they've had it ready for a while and just been just sitting on it and letting their app rot. Working there must be total chaos.

> and then when they finally release an update it's because of a fucking Bing button To be honest and as a heavy user of SwiftKey on iOS, they updated the app and released a fix before all the AI hype in the last couple of months. They might have this in mind as part of their vision from that point, but it is not to say that

Wait, you were still using it? I used it for years and years but then they announced they killed it[1] last Fall and I switched to something I like a lot less.

Is SwiftKey back? Can I start using it again? Will they just yank it again in three months when people get bored of the AI gimmick?

I'm confused.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/microsoft-will-end-s...

Can we please, as an industry, stop selling good things to big companies just so they can smother them with a pillow?

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It's called _testimony_ only iff you say it is you that are in that particular boat. As such, I thank you for sharing your story: that requires courage for sure, and can certainly give support for any one point! If that use of qualifiers is what gives you that courage, take my apology for being so "aggressive". I was simply suggesting to avoid generalizing, even (especially) when starting from your own experience. Yo…

I can't win for losing. If I state upfront that I'm x demographic -- poor, handicapped, formerly homeless, a woman -- someone will have a cow about me oversharing.* If I don't, someone will have some other issue with my observations or opinions. Note to self: Next life, be a rich white male or some shit. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35549294

Yeah, you are probably right: communication is sometimes (always?) hard, especially when only done in writing: my apologies for not seeing through your original message.

In retrospect, you didn't do anything wrong, and I read too much into it: my bad, so sorry!

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