Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

Post by BalinKing » Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

posterboy wrote: post #65

neom wrote: post #4

Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

All I learned from reading this is that your translation skills are abysimal. I only know the script and can tell that the encoded information is a little more complex. > You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence That would likely break the Curry-Howard-Correspondance. So I can only concure, it is "incredible". Good on you if you reached a point where you don't notice the…

Post by kleton » Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 1:47 AM UTC

neom wrote: post #4

Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

Post by pigsty » Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 2:19 AM UTC

yongjik wrote: post #28

schwartzworld wrote: post #12

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All these can be said as succinctly in English though. "one beer please" is enough to place an order, and the rest is just decorative. Does Korean not have more complex / ceremonial speech patterns?

Oh, and there's one really succinct way of expression that's not found in English: One can say something like 난 라면 - literally "I am ramen" (or something like that - it's a bit fuzzy because the "be" verb is omitted). It would be a ridiculous sentence by itself, but if your friend just asked "I'll have noodles, how about you?" then it's a perfectly fine response. Similarly you could even say 난 프랑스 ("I am France") if…

Post by IIAOPSW » Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 2:33 AM UTC

famouswaffles wrote: post #35

okdood64 wrote: post #30

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English can be pretty much as efficient... It's up to the social context on how much you want to dress it up.

No it really can't. It's somewhat hard to explain without going hard into grammar but if someone tried complex communication in English, how you would in Korean, communication would break down very quickly. In Korean, Plural markers basically don't exist, Articles don't exist and possessive determiners are very few and only typically inserted when determining the meaning would be difficult otherwise. Strictly speakin…

Post by yongjik » Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 3:02 AM UTC

IIAOPSW wrote: post #97

famouswaffles wrote: post #35

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No it really can't. It's somewhat hard to explain without going hard into grammar but if someone tried complex communication in English, how you would in Korean, communication would break down very quickly. In Korean, Plural markers basically don't exist, Articles don't exist and possessive determiners are very few and only typically inserted when determining the meaning would be difficult otherwise. Strictly speakin…

Hold up, if information is being encoded on tone, and tonal marks aren't part of the written language, then you've at least somewhat bait and switched us. Its not literally one identical phrase for 4 situations. Its several slightly different phrases that happen to not have their difference transcribed within this writing system. The information is still there!