As a Korean & English speaking person (Korean Australian) I've grown to love my mother tongue more as I've gotten older, spoke English more, read more Korean books, tried to analyze the differences in languages and communication approaches etc. I just "feel" Korean as a language is, so different to English - more, expressive? nuanced? I'm sure there are plenty of other languages out there that are like that. I don't know how knowing these two very different languages have helped me and shaped me, but I'm certain it's been positive.
All these can be said as succinctly in English though. "one beer please" is enough to place an order, and the rest is just decorative. Does Korean not have more complex / ceremonial speech patterns?
Korean has a crapload of complex speech patterns (degree of politeness - that's sheer madness) but the nice(?) thing about it is that it all comes at the end. So you can start your sentence without even deciding if it's a statement or a question. E.g., 오늘 그 식당 열어요 Today that restaurant is open. 오늘 그 식당 열어요? Is that restaurant open today? 오늘 그 식당 열 것 같아요. I guess that restaurant is open today. 오늘 그 식당 열 것 같다고 들었어요. I…
Is there is a general obsession in every culture with fetishizing things perceived to be foreign or inscrutable, or is it just Western culture?
It's the same in Japan with English. People wear things with English words to make themselves look cool, just as a westerner might with kanji, and the actual meaning of the word is secondary to the point of being entirely inconsequential, which is why you might see some hilarious stuff on your way around town.
Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!
Is there is a general obsession in every culture with fetishizing things perceived to be foreign or inscrutable, or is it just Western culture?
It's the same in Japan with English. People wear things with English words to make themselves look cool, just as a westerner might with kanji, and the actual meaning of the word is secondary to the point of being entirely inconsequential, which is why you might see some hilarious stuff on your way around town.
In Korean fashion too pretty much all writing is in English too. It's all grammatically correct-ish but it reads unnaturally to a native English speaker.
You can even get two of them down to a single syllable.
"Beer?"
"Loo?"
"Wifi?"
Written with an extra character which indicates tone. English has the meaningless 'do' but even that can be done away with should you so choose.
I always think like whenever these comparisons are made people they're from people who must think in quite stilted English because of their education.
There are some interesting comparisons to be made but comparing highly formalised english as though it's the only way to speak it is not how they should be made.
There are many levels of honorifics, from very low form to very polite form. Most aren’t used on a daily basis though, just like how most people don’t speak like they’re a lawyer addressing a courtroom. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_honorifics#Addressee_...
I tried translating it with a tool: "존경하는 각하, 맥주 한 잔만 드시게 해달라고 겸손히 부탁드려도 될까요?" Does that sound about right?
Another Korean here. Usually in Korea, one could refer to an unknown someone as "선생님(teacher)". "각하", on the other hand, has been referred to the President of Korea. So it really sounds weird to a Korean. When someone calls you "각하". If I were to be a customer, then I would be called "고객님". Where "고객" means customer and "님" is like "sama" in Japanese, and "sir" in English.