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AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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> Why AT&T wants bandwidth to appear lower than reality is a mystery to me, but I digress

For you a speed test is just once in a life time event.

For a wireless provider this is a thing what clogs the shared media of a radio channel for quite a lot (modern speed tests try to push 100 or even more MBytes?) and cause a disruption for everyone else on the same channel.

I don't know why ATT throttles (if at all, not a customer) that site, but wire and wireless providers are different.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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How does traffic shaping interact with net neutrality regulations?

Easy. goto here: https://www.att.com/support log in. cancel. tell them why. goto https://www.t-mobile.com port your number and sign up. and you're done! You can't legislate good behavior. You can only hit them in the checkbook. Wireless fortunately doesn't have the cable providers do, where local governments have entrenched players into local monopolies. Switching away is the most powerful thing you can do.

I’d be happy to switch to T Mobile if they could stop leaking their customers data.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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While everyone knows that all wireless carriers are universally terrible, I've actually had a fairly noneventful (read: good) experience with T-Mobile over the last decade. I've never observed evidence of traffic shaping or any other shady business (like capturing NXDOMAIN DNS responses and directing you to a sponsored search page). I've also never observed significant performance degradation from congestion-based prioritization after exceeding the alloted 50 GB or whatever of monthly "normal-priority" data usage.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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How does traffic shaping interact with net neutrality regulations?

Easy. goto here: https://www.att.com/support log in. cancel. tell them why. goto https://www.t-mobile.com port your number and sign up. and you're done! You can't legislate good behavior. You can only hit them in the checkbook. Wireless fortunately doesn't have the cable providers do, where local governments have entrenched players into local monopolies. Switching away is the most powerful thing you can do.

>You can't legislate good behavior.

Well, you absolutely can. It's just that the US voter regularly votes in politicians that do absolutely nothing to mandate at least fair behaviour.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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This explains some similar behavior I've had with various apps taking absurdly long to load when the internet connection itself feels fine. Assumed it was just iPhone's gradually getting shittier

Now that you mention this, it does match my experience on AT&T with my iPhone - plenty of bars, no DNS issues but frustratingly long delays spent staring at layout templates (because progressive enhancement is long dead) waiting for any actual content to arrive.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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How does traffic shaping interact with net neutrality regulations?

Easy. goto here: https://www.att.com/support log in. cancel. tell them why. goto https://www.t-mobile.com port your number and sign up. and you're done! You can't legislate good behavior. You can only hit them in the checkbook. Wireless fortunately doesn't have the cable providers do, where local governments have entrenched players into local monopolies. Switching away is the most powerful thing you can do.

lol as if ATT is going to care if a tiny handful of techies switches because of this.

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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While everyone knows that all wireless carriers are universally terrible, I've actually had a fairly noneventful (read: good) experience with T-Mobile over the last decade. I've never observed evidence of traffic shaping or any other shady business (like capturing NXDOMAIN DNS responses and directing you to a sponsored search page). I've also never observed significant performance degradation from congestion-based pr…

I have too, mostly…

But apart from all the data breaches, I was also able to verify T-Mobile doing this (arbitrary blocking of texts containing innocuous URLs) on my plan. Although they seem to have fixed it now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29744347

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

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While everyone knows that all wireless carriers are universally terrible, I've actually had a fairly noneventful (read: good) experience with T-Mobile over the last decade. I've never observed evidence of traffic shaping or any other shady business (like capturing NXDOMAIN DNS responses and directing you to a sponsored search page). I've also never observed significant performance degradation from congestion-based pr…

Many of their plans downscale video, or at least they used to

Re: AT&T Wireless traffic shaping apparently making some websites unusable

#20
I noticed this same issue with my AT&T internet. After some investigation, I found that using a VPN (Virtual Private Network) effectively resolved the problem. It seems that when internet traffic is encrypted and routed through a different server, the traffic shaping technique they employ isn’t able to identify and throttle specific types of data.
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