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Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

All these can be said as succinctly in English though. "one beer please" is enough to place an order, and the rest is just decorative.

Does Korean not have more complex / ceremonial speech patterns?

Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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The phoenetic aspects of Hangul makes it just about my favorite language. It just feels so natural to say the words and phrases. French, german russian feel so unnatural on the other hand and english accents in england feel like I am pretending to be rich or of a higher class lol. Hangul is peculiar for me because japanese and mandarin both have close cultural influence and ties on Korea but it sounds very different.

Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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The Korean graphic designer Ahn Sang Soo played around with linearizing the alphabet: https://www.we-find-wildness.com/2011/05/ahn-sang-soo/img_00...

What's nice is that it's immediately legible if you already know how to read, but you also realize how inherently slower it is. One of the nicest parts of Korean (and other east asian languages) is that each block is always a single syllable.

Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

All these can be said as succinctly in English though. "one beer please" is enough to place an order, and the rest is just decorative. Does Korean not have more complex / ceremonial speech patterns?

It does, many words have different age-based / status-based suffixes which adds a lot of unnecessary complexity. Numbers are also annoying as the counting numbers vs. quantity.

From an information theory POV, we should really look at not just the complexity but the information density of a language. English has a lot of foolish rules, but the large vocabulary provides a much higher bandwidth than other languages.

https://medium.com/oscar-tech/information-density-of-differe...

Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

In English you can say "One beer please."

"You have wifi?"

Re: Korean as a Concatenative, Stack-Oriented Language (2017)

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Having spent the last 5 years learning Korean, I've grown to find it an incredibly efficient language. 맥주 한 잔 주세요 Beer one please 화장실은 어디에요? Toilet where? 와이파이 있어요? wifi is here? You can process and even start answering someone before they've finished their sentence. By contrast in English, I'd say "Could I have another beer please?" - tell me what you need up front!

All these can be said as succinctly in English though. "one beer please" is enough to place an order, and the rest is just decorative. Does Korean not have more complex / ceremonial speech patterns?

How would would you say "where is the toilet?" more succinctly with the context up front in English? If someone came up to me in English and said "toilet where?" I'd presume they're either rude or English isn't their first language.

There are formal and informal ways to say thing in Korean, for every day stuff it's often just a matter of changing the suffix, for some stuff it's a different word, for example 감사합니다 Kamsahamnida is thank you to anyone, but 고마워 gomawo (thanks) only to a friend.

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