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DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Re: DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Post by nofollow »

belinder wrote: post #33
coredog64 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theoretically, what we want is for it to be illegal to solicit or offer a bribe. If we can construct a legal environment in which people can accept or pay bribes but report that in a constructive way, then the negative side gets riskier without making everyone involved co-conspirators. Practical example: Tuna boats in the Pacific have onboard observers from one of the island nations that own the EEZs that are fished.…

And now that observer no longer gets invited on any boats

I think they'd be more worried about the relatively large number of suspicious deaths in that industry increasing: https://www.apo-observers.org/observer-safety/misses/

Re: DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Post by geocar »

coredog64 wrote: post #30
pc86 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The kicker is that some poor bastard was indicted for paying the "consulting" fee! I mean the system works best if people on both sides of the equation are punished, right?

Theoretically, what we want is for it to be illegal to solicit or offer a bribe. If we can construct a legal environment in which people can accept or pay bribes but report that in a constructive way, then the negative side gets riskier without making everyone involved co-conspirators. Practical example: Tuna boats in the Pacific have onboard observers from one of the island nations that own the EEZs that are fished.…

Or the bribe is structured in a (recurring) way, such as a regular consulting job so that the observer has something to look forward to.

Re: DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Post by tyre »

coredog64 wrote: post #30
pc86 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The kicker is that some poor bastard was indicted for paying the "consulting" fee! I mean the system works best if people on both sides of the equation are punished, right?

Theoretically, what we want is for it to be illegal to solicit or offer a bribe. If we can construct a legal environment in which people can accept or pay bribes but report that in a constructive way, then the negative side gets riskier without making everyone involved co-conspirators. Practical example: Tuna boats in the Pacific have onboard observers from one of the island nations that own the EEZs that are fished.…

The IRS in the United States recommends including bribes in income.

Re: DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Post by yieldcrv »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #37
doryWalnut wrote: post #7

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It should be noted that this isn't normal! He may get away with it because he's a supreme court justice, our supreme court sucks right now, and our constitution provides insufficient checks on the supreme court's power. But there's a reason Pro Publica did an exposé.

> It should be noted that this isn't normal!

You don't know that.

This whole expose is about the weakness of the disclosure rules levied on Supreme Court justices, the gaps, the amount open to interpretation. The only assurance you have is that some level of compliance is normal because a disclosure happened before.

"hey look, they actually disclosed something! good thing I don't live in this *other* corrupt country in the world where you would be disappeared for saying this! American exceptionalism!"

Re: DOJ charges 10 with fraud in global air freight kickback scheme

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Post by slavboj »

jacquesm wrote: post #43
slavboj wrote: post #12

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It aligns incentives on both sides to keep the scheme secret.

If you want to keep something secret don't send invoices.

Money changing hands without invoices is significantly sketchier and more difficult to accomplish.
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