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New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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If it’s proven that is bad for them, I would not be so opposed. Same with alcohol or tobacco.

Driving is proven to be very dangerous but our government still encourages us to brave traffic every day.

Driving is not “very dangerous”?

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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So in Arkansas you are allowed to go work at age 13 without parental consent but not allowed to use social media? Got it. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/08/politics/sarah-huckabee-sande...

That seems completely coherent to me. Getting a job as a teen is good for you. It teaches delayed gratification, working with others, responsibility and it provides a measure of independence early. Social media, on the other hand, will make teens depressed. The association of social media => teen depression is ~5x stronger than cigarettes => lung cancer, which is a completely unfair comparison for cigarettes because…

Kids should absolutely not be working until at least 18. It is not good for them at all. That's time that should be used for education, not throwing them into the meat grinder early.

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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not sure how to feel about this law in general. absolutely do not want me grand kids on twitter or facebook and me kids even more against it. but not sure how state can enforce and state should enforce. feel like 1984 book.

Then it’s your responsibility as a parent to monitor their content.

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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I think people may be overlooking a bigger story here: https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Bills/FTPDocument?path=%2FBil... Reasonable age verification methods under subdivision (c)(1) of this section include providing: (A) A digitized identification card, including a digital copy of a driver's license under § 27-16-601 et seq.; (B) Government-issued identification; or (C) Any commercially reasonable age verification meth…

Yea that's BS. I didn't have any ID till I was 16 and got a driver's license. A lot of kids, like city kids, don't get one till years later. Are they planning to create a new type of ID for children? I wouldn't want my kids anywhere near social media either, but I wouldn't want to rely on the state to track and police their behaviour.

New ID? Nothing new needed, anyone, child or adult, can get a non-driver's id from the DMV. Just need the proper paperwork.

People I grew up with generally started working at 14 and that's when they'd get one. A friend of mine has state IDs for all of her elementary aged children - I assume she needed them for some reason at some point.

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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That seems completely coherent to me. Getting a job as a teen is good for you. It teaches delayed gratification, working with others, responsibility and it provides a measure of independence early. Social media, on the other hand, will make teens depressed. The association of social media => teen depression is ~5x stronger than cigarettes => lung cancer, which is a completely unfair comparison for cigarettes because…

Kids should absolutely not be working until at least 18. It is not good for them at all. That's time that should be used for education, not throwing them into the meat grinder early.

Are you serious? I didn't have full-time jobs until after college but I absolutely had various part-time things on summer holidays, vacations, and in college.

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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Where did you get that it has to be a driver's license? Just get a regular ID card if you don't need to be able to drive.

Two of the three options are driving licenses. It’s obnoxious that the third option is administered through the DMV. I’ve never understood why personal identification falls under that department. An affidavit with a notary’s seal should have been sufficient. So, yes, you’re technically correct, but no, no one is bringing their kids to the DMV for photo ids and not driver’s licenses.

There is a whole process for it in many states that I know of (e.g., https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/drivers/id/child_id.html).

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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That seems completely coherent to me. Getting a job as a teen is good for you. It teaches delayed gratification, working with others, responsibility and it provides a measure of independence early. Social media, on the other hand, will make teens depressed. The association of social media => teen depression is ~5x stronger than cigarettes => lung cancer, which is a completely unfair comparison for cigarettes because…

Kids should absolutely not be working until at least 18. It is not good for them at all. That's time that should be used for education, not throwing them into the meat grinder early.

What better education can a kid get in the summer then from a job?

Re: New Arkansas bill to keep minors off social media exempts most social platforms

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The cookie consent law followed a similar path: A lot of people saw the proposals and assumed it would only hurt the websites they didn’t like. Then the laws passed and now almost every website you visit comes with an annoying cookie pop-up. I’m baffled by all the HN comments from people who think this will only apply to websites they don’t use. No, it’s going to become a miserable burden on the entire internet if it…

Can't sign up without a credit card, credit cards are issued to folks 18 and over. This is how they've done it up until this point (with little success). Making a "know your user" law like banking, no one will want to deal with the hassle and so only corporations (with big pockets to spend on this kind of Deloitte BS) will be able to compete on the internet. It's a travesty.

Unless you’re parents co-sign for you in order to start your credit history early.
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