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GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Anyone else much prefer just mounting your phone on the dash, instead of a separate carplay system? Bonus points if the mount has wireless charging. This way there’s no new UI to learn, and you never are stuck using a subpar carplay-variant UI (looking at you, Gaia)

For long trios that's what I do. I wear headphones to listen to music and audio books so I don't disturb my family. There's no way to tell Android Auto to only use my headphones, despite it being asked.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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I too like CarPlay and see no need for a wireless version. I like to charge my phone. My only gripe is there should be an option to turn off Wi-Fi when you plug into the car. Every time I get in the car, start a song, drive away, 30 seconds of silence while it realizes I can’t get to my Wi-Fi, song is back on. Why would they not have an option to just use cellular in CarPlay mode which is what 99.9% of people do?

I had a similar problem, and solved it with a Shortcut which disables wifi whenever CarPlay is connected, and another to re-enable it when disconnected. Real easy since Shortcuts has built-in triggers for CarPlay.

I couldn’t find anything CarPlay related in the built in shortcuts app. Can you share the details?

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Anyone else much prefer just mounting your phone on the dash, instead of a separate carplay system? Bonus points if the mount has wireless charging. This way there’s no new UI to learn, and you never are stuck using a subpar carplay-variant UI (looking at you, Gaia)

Similarly, the wife and kids much prefer to use their own devices than to use the common car screen to watch movies.

It just makes no sense anymore for cars to have entertainment and navigation systems at all. Our phones do everything.

The only smart features I need in the can are vehicle instrumentation displays.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Detaching the entertainment system from the car and making it just a dumb touchscreen and speakers must have really grinded the gears of auto makers. I can now upgrade my entire entertainment system, GPS, phone, etc. by replacing a phone. They’d prefer you get another car when your system is feeling old. I don’t even understand why my 2020 car had an optional GPS add-on for thousands of dollars. Android Auto / CarPla…

It actually played out differently than I thought. I thought that CarPlay and Android Auto would not be backward compatible with older versions, forcing you to upgrade your car along with your phone. I'm surprised it didn't work that way. I still don't understand why.

Because nobody would want having to buy a new car every time they changed phones.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Ideally, my car would look like a BT speaker, possibly with a microphone and some controls, to the phone. I don't want a dedicated satnav, I don't want an elaborate in-car entertainment system. The reason is twofold. The first is that all of these in-car systems are pretty dated even after a couple of years. The second is that they tend to be fairly low quality to begin with. The system in my car that integrates with…

When I’ve used CarPlay I’ve been generally impressed with the integration with my phone. However in my Tesla it’s not available. But that said it’s proprietary system is decent, except the music player which is tedious to play specific songs or playlists from. The satnav or gps is pretty good. The best though is that it doesn’t get dated. It continuously updates with revs. This is almost certainly the future across all brands.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Car infotainment systems are terrible. That's the reason why everyone wants CarPlay and Android Auto. It's kind of like going back to flip phones after using smartphones for years.

I don't want CarPlay or Android Auto. It's one more thing I have to fiddle with. One more thing to fight while someone beside me or behind me becomes impatient.

Bluetooth is meh. I would rather have an aux cord. From the days when we connected systems by physically connecting systems.

I am in the car to drive, a delightful escape from interacting with a phone.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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post #226

Ideally, my car would look like a BT speaker, possibly with a microphone and some controls, to the phone. I don't want a dedicated satnav, I don't want an elaborate in-car entertainment system. The reason is twofold. The first is that all of these in-car systems are pretty dated even after a couple of years. The second is that they tend to be fairly low quality to begin with. The system in my car that integrates with…

So good news - GM will allow you to dock your phone via bluetooth and let you use the car as simple speaker. So - not a problem for you. Just a problem for those of us that actually like the facilities offered by Android Auto or Carplay - and want to use that instead of the car company's frequently crappy and un-updateable software.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GM is expecting $20-25 billion in annual subscription revenue by 2030. Dropping CarPlay and Android Auto will definitely lose them many sales. They are betting the lost sales will be less than the new subscription revenue.

I genuinely wonder how they justify that figure. They could maybe justify a subscription if they offered a significant service, but they are by definition going to deliver a worse experience than CarPlay/Android Auto - simply due to it not being your own smartphone. Why would anyone buy an expensive car which is designed to last a decade while it has essential pre-installed features locked behind a subscription? If t…

I dont think you understand what the plan is...

Every feature on the car will be a subscription... Heated Seats, Fast Charging, Nav, everything

Of course they will be "free" for the first 3-5 years of ownership, the free is non-transferable to a new owner... and you will be able to get the GM+ All Access Plan to "unlock your car's full potential for only $500 a year".....

This is not a GM thing, this is the dream of all Auto Makers..

You may "buy" the car, but you are not "buying" the software that runs the car...

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