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GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by mrweasel »

Waterluvian wrote: post #41

Detaching the entertainment system from the car and making it just a dumb touchscreen and speakers must have really grinded the gears of auto makers. I can now upgrade my entire entertainment system, GPS, phone, etc. by replacing a phone. They’d prefer you get another car when your system is feeling old. I don’t even understand why my 2020 car had an optional GPS add-on for thousands of dollars. Android Auto / CarPla…

It get even weird when you consider that many of the security issues carmakers have faced have been exactly because their entertainment systems was so tightly integrated into the cars other systems. Honestly it never made sense that the info-tainment system could access the CAN bus on a car, so I'm not sure I'd ever trust carmakers to do this right anyway.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by kiksy »

throwbadubadu wrote: post #188
shrx wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate? Are phones not supposed to be charged to 100%?

lmgtfy: Its the extremes (0% and 100%) that degrades LiIon the quickest, if you want the longest life ideally you'd keep it 30-70% the whole time, ymmv (and also thresholds). And it is a pity manufacturers don't support you in doing stop-charging-at-x if you wanted, e.g. a simple thing for software to do, but impossible without rooting on Android.

Samsung S22 Ultra (at least) has a 'Protect Battery' setting which limits charge to 85% .

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by beachy »

explaininjs wrote: post #161

Anyone else much prefer just mounting your phone on the dash, instead of a separate carplay system? Bonus points if the mount has wireless charging. This way there’s no new UI to learn, and you never are stuck using a subpar carplay-variant UI (looking at you, Gaia)

Nope, for me using a phone is a much worse experience.

1) Small screen hard to read with ageing eyes from that distance, or to operate touch controls precisely. This alone is a deal breaker, anything that requires more focus or concentration is A safety hazard and a no go.

2) unsightly charging cables hanging around.

3) no backing camera support. Also a safety hazard.

4) no handsfree support i.e control volume, skip songs without looking or lifting hands from the steering wheel

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by Bud »

spockz wrote: post #171
LanceH wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit of a pain if two people share the car. Even worse if two people share more than one car. There never seems to be an option to force use a specific phone when more than one is possible. They all seem sticky to a phone and it always seems to be the other one. I guess a good thing about carplay is that when traveling with someone else, they can use their phone to update things like maps, and we're not complet…

I really liked wireless CarPlay when testing the Enyaq and wondered about the multi user situation. Already today Bluetooth always seems to get exactly the wrong phone. In our current setup we just have a phone holder with plug in which we shove the phone. Then it is done. It takes longer to pull the phone out of the pocket than to connect it. The only downside to CarPlay is that the battery stays at 100% charge. I w…

Although that's not really a downside of CarPlay itself, and you can also solve that with the Optimized Battery Charging feature, in iOS 13 or later. So just turn that on.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by philsnow »

silisili wrote: post #184
TulliusCicero wrote: post #179

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Just rented a car with wireless Android Auto, and while it was convenient when it worked, it occasionally dropped the connection and I had to manually restart it (and sometimes it would refuse to connect). On one day where I was on a road trip, this happened several times. Also, when I wanted to turn it off temporarily, there's no easy way to do so on either the phone or car. Gotta turn the car off or dive deep into…

The first and only time I tried Android Auto, I asked my wife to look up directions to a place on my phone. It kept saying not to use the phone while driving, and effectively blocked it. I mean, I get the spirit, but the experience was terrible.

I was using Waze a couple days ago while connected to CarPlay, but at a dead stop with the car in Park. The route selection screen on the phone wouldn't let me choose a particular route (HOV route) but it also wouldn't say why. It just either didn't respond to the input or else the route label flashed but didn't actually activate. The CarPlay screen only included the non-HOV versions of the routes, so I just plain couldn't pick the route I wanted.

I unplugged the phone for two seconds, picked the HOV route, and then plugged it back in, but I was infuriated by it.

This is not a knock on CarPlay, but rather Waze's UX decisions. It requires GPS access to function, it can tell if I'm stopped or not.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by Mesopropithecus »

throwbadubadu wrote: post #188
shrx wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate? Are phones not supposed to be charged to 100%?

lmgtfy: Its the extremes (0% and 100%) that degrades LiIon the quickest, if you want the longest life ideally you'd keep it 30-70% the whole time, ymmv (and also thresholds). And it is a pity manufacturers don't support you in doing stop-charging-at-x if you wanted, e.g. a simple thing for software to do, but impossible without rooting on Android.

ASUS Zenphone has a setting that lets you set a charging limit at 80, 90, or 100%.
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