I do have some sympathy for GM — as much as the public might want it, continuing down the current path is certainly ceding a fair amount of control over their customer base to two large third parties.
GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#12The better option is: remove infotainment completely and _require_ a smartphone for anything other than FM/AM radio.
* Support an open protocol for rendering images/video/animations on the screen. Sorta like... you know, CarPlay.
* Have controls for what events are allowed to be sent to the connected device. Don't want your phone to know your Throttle Position? Turn that shit off. Don't want your phone to know whether it's dark/light outside? Turn that on/off too.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#13I do have some sympathy for GM — as much as the public might want it, continuing down the current path is certainly ceding a fair amount of control over their customer base to two large third parties.
Yes instead of merely supporting Android Auto, they are now fully dependent on Android Automotive.
Meet the new boss…
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#14I do have some sympathy for GM — as much as the public might want it, continuing down the current path is certainly ceding a fair amount of control over their customer base to two large third parties.
Except that in this case GM is still using Android Automotive the kernel (not to be confused with Android Auto, the user feature they plan to disable; thanks Google marketing for two easily confused brand names here). GM is still ceding a fair amount of control to Google and Google apps even if apparently Google is promising GM far more user data sharing.
(Which leaves me somewhat wondering how much Google is paying GM to eliminate Apple CarPlay from the picture? Apple seems the only company inconvenienced here. Most of the inconvenience is born by the users of a loss of key user-facing features.)
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#15I don’t understand why they can’t have their own system and still support CarPlay. They are not mutually exclusive options.
And Android Automotive supports CarPlay.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#16Picking up our Hyundai Ioniq 5 this afternoon. We were seriously going to wait for a 2024 EV Chevy Blazer[0], but… [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35391283
You’re going to love it.
We have a Palisade. Hyundai has done so much right on their recent cars. I’m sure they’ve made even better EV’s
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#17They will either write something workable, or this endeavor will fail, and they will go back to the tried and true.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#18They will either write something workable, or this endeavor will fail, and they will go back to the tried and true.
>They will either write something workable
Since when has a car company ever created workable software?
The screens still lag, and the in-car integration systems are so garbage that they found it worthwhile to farm them out to tech companies.
And CarPlay/Android Auto aren't much better; Google employees are specifically hired based on their expertise of data structures and algorithms so they have zero excuse for the abysmal quality of the software they turn out.
If this is what tens of millions in salaries buys I'm suddenly a lot less disappointed in the fact that AI can do a better job.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#19Personally, I wont ever connect my phone to my car at all (if my next car doesn't have an aux port I'll install one myself), but I have to assume that GM is doing this because their own software siphons more data off of our devices than even carplay or andriod auto does. > "GM is looking to monetize more software and services within its vehicles and is taking a page out of Tesla’s playbook," Since they're only doing…
CarPlay and AndroidAuto don’t give the car any access to the phone data and that’s the “problem” GM seems trying to “fix”.
CarPlay and AndroidAuto protocols basically treat car’s display as a remote framebuffer.
Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
#20I don’t understand why they can’t have their own system and still support CarPlay. They are not mutually exclusive options.
Because GM wants to charge subscriptions for all kinds of software features and don’t want any competition. They are mainly looking at this as their maps vs the phone’s maps. They are ignoring all of the other reasons on why people choose AndroidAuto and CarPlay. That is often as much about personalization as anything else.