Dreams are the default for intelligence
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#2I think it's an interesting potential answer to the ongoing question of "why do we have dreams, what evolutionary purpose do they serve?" Maybe the answer is that they do not need to serve any purpose because dreaming is actually the default mode - "normal" consciousness is the adaptation. From that perspective the evolutionary purpose (of normal rational consciousness) is obvious.
Just musing here but I wonder if that line of thought could shed light on how non-sapient animals experience consciousness as well.
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#3I got completely lost in trying to understand the idea he is trying to convey.
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#4I hope this isn’t true. I’m in my 50s and I have never dreamed. By that I mean, I have never woken up from sleeping and remembered anything happening between the time I fell asleep and I awoke. It’s a complete blank. Maybe I do dream, but I have no proof or indication that I do. I never have.
As a side note, it really bothers me when dreaming is used as a plot device in books. I can’t relate at all to the concept of dreaming and remembering the dream.
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#5Given that this might be so, wouldn’t it be even more apt to adopt Geoffery Hintons Forward Forward Algo which emphasises teaching the neural network the difference between dream data and real data at the neurological level.
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#6I think it's an interesting potential answer to the ongoing question of "why do we have dreams, what evolutionary purpose do they serve?" Maybe the answer is that they do not need to serve any purpose because dreaming is actually the default mode - "normal" consciousness is the adaptation. From that perspective the evolutionary purpose (of normal rational consciousness) is obvious. Just musing here but I wonder if th…
From an evolutionary perspective, letting animals think/dream is an optimal way for them to explore things without risk.
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#7This also reminds me of some theories I've seen that sleep (e.g. mostly sessile behavior) is the biological default for Earth life, and being "awake" and highly mobile is itself a specialized adaptation.
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#8I hope this isn’t true. I’m in my 50s and I have never dreamed. By that I mean, I have never woken up from sleeping and remembered anything happening between the time I fell asleep and I awoke. It’s a complete blank. Maybe I do dream, but I have no proof or indication that I do. I never have. As a side note, it really bothers me when dreaming is used as a plot device in books. I can’t relate at all to the concept of…
There are devices made to detect and disturb you (with light, vibrations, etc) during REM sleep, to help with lucid dreaming. If you want to experience a dream, something like that might help, with the fairly safe assumption that you do enter REM sleep.
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#9Wrong
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#10I hope this isn’t true. I’m in my 50s and I have never dreamed. By that I mean, I have never woken up from sleeping and remembered anything happening between the time I fell asleep and I awoke. It’s a complete blank. Maybe I do dream, but I have no proof or indication that I do. I never have. As a side note, it really bothers me when dreaming is used as a plot device in books. I can’t relate at all to the concept of…
Interestingly enough, I could be considered the opposite. Having aphantasia, I've never had a mental image, but I have very vivid dreams. Talking to my dad, he only dreams in black and white. It's just awesome the variability we humans have.