GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by CharlesW » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 6:58 PM UTC

GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash
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Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by 1970-01-01 » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 8:39 PM UTC

Short term, this is stupid. GM pulled out too quickly, and without a superior drop-in replacement. Long-term, this is smart. GM will gain complete control of the software stack, and they won't be bullied into anything. Tesla knows this. Others like Rivian know it too.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by autoexec » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 8:46 PM UTC

Personally, I wont ever connect my phone to my car at all (if my next car doesn't have an aux port I'll install one myself), but I have to assume that GM is doing this because their own software siphons more data off of our devices than even carplay or andriod auto does.

> "GM is looking to monetize more software and services within its vehicles and is taking a page out of Tesla’s playbook,"

Since they're only doing this because they want to take even more of your money after you've already spent a small fortune buying their vehicle, consumers pushing back against this is a good idea even if you don't have strong feelings about what software your car uses.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by travisporter » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 8:48 PM UTC

Rivian doublding down on this is also a bit disappointing. Not that I can afford one

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by jdlyga » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 8:55 PM UTC

Car infotainment systems are terrible. That's the reason why everyone wants CarPlay and Android Auto. It's kind of like going back to flip phones after using smartphones for years.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by fzzzy » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 8:58 PM UTC

1970-01-01 wrote: post #2

Short term, this is stupid. GM pulled out too quickly, and without a superior drop-in replacement. Long-term, this is smart. GM will gain complete control of the software stack, and they won't be bullied into anything. Tesla knows this. Others like Rivian know it too.

Well ok, but this is why I will never buy a tesla, rivian, or gm.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by lockhouse » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

I don’t understand why they can’t have their own system and still support CarPlay. They are not mutually exclusive options.

Re: GM’s decision to ditch Apple CarPlay, Android Auto sparks backlash

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Post by CharlesW » Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 9:09 PM UTC

1970-01-01 wrote: post #2

Short term, this is stupid. GM pulled out too quickly, and without a superior drop-in replacement. Long-term, this is smart. GM will gain complete control of the software stack, and they won't be bullied into anything. Tesla knows this. Others like Rivian know it too.

> Long-term, this is smart. GM will gain complete control of the software stack…

CarPlay (I’m not familiar with Android Auto) doesn’t require that GM cede any control over their software stack. As Wikipedia puts it, it just “enables a car radio or head unit to be a display and a controller for an iOS device”.

What GM wants is to charge you $30/month for services, since phones have mostly killed their OnStar cash cow. What they’re going to learn is the extent to which “doesn’t work with my phone” is going to be a deciding factor for vehicle purchases.