Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
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Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
#3This is beyond satire, the very first line is:
> Violent crime has technically been worse in Canada,
Technically worse? (Is that the best kind of worse?).
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Lol, are you saying the issue in Canada is poor people don't fear god?
Btw what struck me -weird- when visiting over there, was how much the state seems to do to keep their poor citizens at bay.
Disposable needle containers in the Tim Horton's bathrooms is not something I was expecting.
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
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Lol, are you saying the issue in Canada is poor people don't fear god? Btw what struck me -weird- when visiting over there, was how much the state seems to do to keep their poor citizens at bay. Disposable needle containers in the Tim Horton's bathrooms is not something I was expecting.
It's remarkably difficult to find good data comparing the "generous safety net" approach to the "tough love" approach in terms of effects on homelessness, poverty, and crime.
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
#6It’s because they didn’t get the political support to fully defund then police. Slight defund = more crime.
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lol, are you saying the issue in Canada is poor people don't fear god? Btw what struck me -weird- when visiting over there, was how much the state seems to do to keep their poor citizens at bay. Disposable needle containers in the Tim Horton's bathrooms is not something I was expecting.
It's remarkably difficult to find good data comparing the "generous safety net" approach to the "tough love" approach in terms of effects on homelessness, poverty, and crime.
So maybe we should try both at the same time!
(just throwing out ideas here)
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
#8Note that National Post is a very conservative publication, and as such is going to have a bias for "tough on crime" solutions. It is not surprising that this article chooses to focus on bail reform.
Personally, i notice that the sudden rise in crime happened almost exactly at the same time as the fact that rents jumped out of reach for many people.
The fact that the spike in random violence appeared at the same time tent cities did should be obvious to anyone.
It seems likely that a mentally unwell man is far more likely to stab somebody on the subway when that's the place he spends all day to stay warm since the homeless shelters are full.
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
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Lol, are you saying the issue in Canada is poor people don't fear god? Btw what struck me -weird- when visiting over there, was how much the state seems to do to keep their poor citizens at bay. Disposable needle containers in the Tim Horton's bathrooms is not something I was expecting.
> how much the state seems to do to keep their poor citizens at bay.
The example your cite can be viewed in different lights I suppose. It could be “keeping poor citizens at bay” or it could be “recognizing a reality and providing a place to dispose of needles so that workers disposing of the garbage don’t accidentally get pricked”.
Also, needles don’t necessarily mean illicit drugs. Could be diabetic needles too.
Canada is pretty progressive at decriminalizing drugs (marijuana a few years back and now hard drugs in BC to a certain amount) in an effort to avoid throwing people in jail. In conjunction with the roll out of safe/supervised injection sites, I would interpret this as trying less to keep these citizens at bay (in jail) and more at trying to give people freedom and autonomy over their bodies.
That said, if you really want to make the case that the government is keeping poor people poor, you needn’t look beyond our interest rate and housing supply policies over the last two decades, and our complete inability to restrict corporate oligopolies from further consolidating. I.e. if you want to complain about us you aren’t doing a very thoughtful job :-)
Re: Canada is seeing violent crime like never before. What's behind the crime wave
#10This is beyond satire, the very first line is: > Violent crime has technically been worse in Canada, Technically worse? (Is that the best kind of worse?).
I believe the article goes on to make the point that while violent crime overall has been worse, the difference now is that many of the victims are not themselves violent criminals. In other words, whereas previously violence was largely confined to violent people, now, random innocent people are involved.