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Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by senttoschool »

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers.

However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day.

We've got to come up with a better solution.

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by rapnie »

senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

The author states this:

> To make this very clear: user/visitor consent is only needed for data going to 3rd parties. All cookie laws, including GDPR and CCPA, allow essential first-party cookies to be exempt from collecting user consent before performing their actions. So your session tracking cookie on your site DOES NOT need a consent popup AT ALL.

Most consent dialogs can be avoided, were it not that the surveillance capitalist services need your data, and shove these dialogs full of deceptive design in your face. In hopes to have as many people as possible complain about the regulations, and use that pressure to lobby them away again.

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by shmde »

senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

Also accepting them cookies is one single click but rejecting them feels like entering the dark realm with multiple options and not knowing where to click. I am software dev but still have to use just enough mental resources to reject all of the non essential ones. How the fuck is this legal.

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by submeta »

senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

> vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers

I highly doubt that. Do give people simpler ways to opt-out of all tracking, and they‘d happily chose that. Currently we have two problems: 1) The consent button is one click for cookies, the other is several clicks away. 2) The layman does not now how to choose a setting to always opt-out of tracking.

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by dre_bot »

senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

Most don't even know what the hell a cookie is or any of the shit in those prompts.

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by illiarian »

senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

>The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers.

When presented with "Ask app to not track" on iOS, 96% users clicked "do not track" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/96-of-us-users-opt-o...

Re: Stop whining about “The EU Cookie Policy” and improve your ways

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Post by 4ad »

rapnie wrote: post #3
senttoschool wrote: post #2

The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers. However, there is a very real productivity loss with all the cookie prompts - both trying to implement them, getting around them, and the billions of people who have to click on them every single day. We've got to come up with a better solution.

The author states this: > To make this very clear: user/visitor consent is only needed for data going to 3rd parties. All cookie laws, including GDPR and CCPA, allow essential first-party cookies to be exempt from collecting user consent before performing their actions. So your session tracking cookie on your site DOES NOT need a consent popup AT ALL. Most consent dialogs can be avoided, were it not that the surveill…

My bank doesn't use 3rd party cookies, but they have a modal wall you have to click through anyway that explains that they DO NOT use cookies.

This is insanity. Their explanation is that users are so accustomed to these cookie walls that a site without one would feel suspicious and unsafe.

I very much blame the EU on this, because the EU policy has solved NOTHING, tracking still happens just as before, except now users just have to go through more friction. Of course I am also pissed at the websites and entities that sell my data, but that is irrelevant to my gripe with the EU.

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