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A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by kvdveer »

Is swatting a thing outside of the US? I've never heard of it happening here in the Netherlands.

It seems to me that the concept of swatting requires a not-to-competent shoot-first-ask-questions-later police force. If the US police force uniquely has these qualities, it seems prudent to reorganise it.

Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by sorokod »

kvdveer wrote: post #2

Is swatting a thing outside of the US? I've never heard of it happening here in the Netherlands. It seems to me that the concept of swatting requires a not-to-competent shoot-first-ask-questions-later police force. If the US police force uniquely has these qualities, it seems prudent to reorganise it.

Leveraging heavy handed government response by providing false information has a long history.

Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by aww_dang »

kvdveer wrote: post #2

Is swatting a thing outside of the US? I've never heard of it happening here in the Netherlands. It seems to me that the concept of swatting requires a not-to-competent shoot-first-ask-questions-later police force. If the US police force uniquely has these qualities, it seems prudent to reorganise it.

Tangentially related:

https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/v/2023/how-a-volkskrant...

Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by chme »

kvdveer wrote: post #2

Is swatting a thing outside of the US? I've never heard of it happening here in the Netherlands. It seems to me that the concept of swatting requires a not-to-competent shoot-first-ask-questions-later police force. If the US police force uniquely has these qualities, it seems prudent to reorganise it.

It happened in Germany: https://www.vice.com/de/article/9aqy9y/erstes-deutsches-swat...

But much more prevalent are 'legal' search and seizure actions against political opponents and activists.

Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by sorokod »

xvilka wrote: post #6
sorokod wrote: post #3

In some future, completing a CAPTCHA, will be a prerequisite for contacting public services.

By that time solving captcha would be a bigger problem for people rather than computer. Especially in a situation of distress.

Right, some sort of reversed Turing test.

Re: A Computer Generated Swatting Service Is Causing Havoc Across America

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Post by echelon »

kvdveer wrote: post #2

Is swatting a thing outside of the US? I've never heard of it happening here in the Netherlands. It seems to me that the concept of swatting requires a not-to-competent shoot-first-ask-questions-later police force. If the US police force uniquely has these qualities, it seems prudent to reorganise it.

US police can and are frequently shot and killed. US citizens can legally carry guns. That's the difference.

US policing is different because the risks are different.

Moreover, if there's a report of a hostage situation or gun violence, there is a chance that the situation is real and unfolding live.

These are two very different lists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_office...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_police_officer...

Keep in mind this doesn't include non-fatal injuries.

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