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The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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I definitely don't think the big schools like Harvard/Yale/etc. need any more money, but I will play devil's advocate here. > "he donated $300 million in such as a way as to do as close as possible to zero good with it." Oh there are a lot worse ways to spend it with the best of intentions. The Turkana frozen-fish plant is a classic example, a charitable project where back in around 1975 around $150 million (in today…

> It is ultimately funding education for smart people who are well-positioned to use that education productively, and for research and arts that are meant to benefit humanity. It's not just throwing it away.

You have to account for it as the marginal dollar, not the average dollar. If Harvard had less money, and they're competent, they would cut the least effective programs. But because their budget is so large, they've already fully funded everything in their wheelhouse with high utility and the least effective programs would be mostly waste and vanity. (And if they're not competent then you obviously don't want to be giving them more money either.)

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#162

Give everyone in America $1. That'll impact basically nothing.

A donation like this would be extremely impactful because it would: 1. Get a lot of people talking and 2. Probably cause a bureaucratic headache for a LOT of people and waste insane amounts of time nation wide.

Hmm I didn't consider second-order impact, but still think it's gotta be one of the least impactful ways, strictly speaking. "Spending," is a loose term but if burning a sum of cash that large... maybe that's impactful to the climate

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Partly, but it was Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago who helped lay the framework for the "shareholder primacy" theory that really paved the way for the poor longterm corporate management of the last couple of decades.

As if CEOs wouldn't be trying to max their stock value without the word of Milton Friedman

The real problem is that "shareholders" stopped being people and started being large funds.

When the shareholders are people with a long-term stake in the company, like the founders, they can make long-term decisions or choose not to want the absolute most profit-maximizing thing because actually they're already pretty rich and maybe some things are more important.

When they're fund managers, they want quarterly profits because that's how they get their bonus, and their fund may not even own shares in that company in a year's time.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you being serious? I thought that trickle-down economics theory was pretty much debunked in the eyes of most of the nonelite people.

I never said trickledown economics. I just said that inequality doesn't hurt people. Some rich person having a 5 star steak dinner doesn't take anything away from how much I enjoyed my own dinner. It's not a zero sum game where a rich person enjoying something takes away from what I enjoy.

The rich also enjoy healthcare

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#165

I definitely don't think the big schools like Harvard/Yale/etc. need any more money, but I will play devil's advocate here. > "he donated $300 million in such as a way as to do as close as possible to zero good with it." Oh there are a lot worse ways to spend it with the best of intentions. The Turkana frozen-fish plant is a classic example, a charitable project where back in around 1975 around $150 million (in today…

Harvard produced many of the people that built a society with staggering and increasing levels of income inequality. Consultants, hedge fund managers, architects of super addictive social media platforms, politicians who write laws favoring corporations over workers, etc. etc.

> [...] increasing levels of income inequality.

What exactly are you talking about? Global inequality has been on a downward trend in the last few decades.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#166

I definitely don't think the big schools like Harvard/Yale/etc. need any more money, but I will play devil's advocate here. > "he donated $300 million in such as a way as to do as close as possible to zero good with it." Oh there are a lot worse ways to spend it with the best of intentions. The Turkana frozen-fish plant is a classic example, a charitable project where back in around 1975 around $150 million (in today…

God I just don't buy the "these people will go on to benefit humanity" argument anymore. We don't need more tech companies. We don't need more hedge funds. We don't need to feed our genuinely brightest minds into the wealth consolidation machine.

Occasioanlly one of these people will find some one-off bit of brilliance that lifts an entire class of people out of poverty, but that ticket has an expiration date tied to the 19th century. Eventually those free spaces will run out. They're already starting to in the western world.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harvard produced many of the people that built a society with staggering and increasing levels of income inequality. Consultants, hedge fund managers, architects of super addictive social media platforms, politicians who write laws favoring corporations over workers, etc. etc.

Partly, but it was Milton Friedman at the University of Chicago who helped lay the framework for the "shareholder primacy" theory that really paved the way for the poor longterm corporate management of the last couple of decades.

Huh? Shareholder primacy might be a good idea, but it's an aspiration at best.

In practice, companies are run for the benefit of their managers.

Especially when they talk about something like 'stakeholder capitalism', because it's inevitable the managers that decide which stakeholders to listen to and how to balance their interests.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#168

I like the idea of Effective Altruism (EA), but it’s ironic to use EA to call out ineffective charitable spending in the wake of all the Effective Altruism ridiculousness of recent years. EA was a key part of SBF’s cover story to make his frauds appear to be coming from a philanthropic angle. An EA figurehead recently spent multiple millions, some of which was FTX donations, on a castle/chateau to “host events”, whic…

"Effective Altruism" (centered around William MacAskill), the "Rationalist Movement" (centered around Eliezer Yudkowsky), the general billionaire philanthropism (most prominent being Bill Gates), the "Universal Basic Income" crowd (of which apparently OpenAI and Sam Altman are spearheading a research project), miss the greater context in which charity takes place: all charity is fundamentally ineffective, charity is the side effect of a failed system, charity will never bring revolution and even worse charity will actively suppress revolution. In a better system there would be no need for charity.

Revolution used to mean pitchforks and guillotines (the French especially loved them), but today, funnily enough, that would be ineffective even if the people would be able to close their favorite streaming channel and wake up. Even in the 1950s it would have been ineffective. A revolution in the 1950s would have probably looked like this: 100% taxation over $50 million (in today's money). Like in a memory-constrained video game, once you reach 9999 coins you can't store more. We should have capped capitalism a long time ago, give the lucky winner a medal, and that's it. We could probably try today this idea, but (i) there is no coagulated we to make it work after at least 158 years of divisiveness and (ii) it's probably too late and it would also be ineffective.

A revolution today would take completely other form from the past. After all, "you can't solve today's problems with yesterday's solutions". Today's revolution, able to wake up every single human from whatever slumber and coagulate them into a we, the people would probably be raising the lifespan to 1,000 years. Not 120, not 200, but straight 1,000, an x10 improvement just like the venture capitalists enjoy. The fact that today you might die at 30 and some guy dies at 90 doesn't seem too much of an issue, and you are willing to accept the system for some minor benefit, if any. But if you might die at 30 and some guy dies at 900, now that's when you start having issues.

How to get to 1,000 years lifespan? 2-3 years ago I would have said mind-uploading, thinking that biochemistry has been surpassed by our magnificent, crystalline-structured silicon. After a global pandemic and some personal eye-openings, literally looking inside myself on the operating table, I would say that we won't be near biochemistry with our toys for the next thousands of years, and it won't actually be needed, we can learn to programatically interface with the cells and just say, top-down, "you, the cells, already know how to build an eye, you did it once, rebuild one here", don't scar, regenerate [1]. 1,000 year lifespan is achievable with 100% organ, tissue regeneration, and then the revolution begins, hopefully.

Coming back to the point, an "effective altruism" would put all the billions and trillions into organ regeneration research, however, oddly enough, that's not even in the general discussion.

[1] Michael Levin talk on bioelectricity at Stanford Chemical Engineering Colloquium, https://youtu.be/WM8bQWfmeB8?t=470

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#169

Imagine what the 300 most creative people here could do with 1 million dollars to invest in a business concept?

Sure, but how do you know who that is? And if you give it to 300 random people it probably gets very little done.

I'd certainly do nothing of value with it, and I like to think I'm both a decent dev and a decent communicator, so it's not beyond imagination I could convince someone I was worth it if they were just looking for people to dump $1,000,000 on.

Re: The least impactful way to spend $300M?

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if CEOs wouldn't be trying to max their stock value without the word of Milton Friedman

The real problem is that "shareholders" stopped being people and started being large funds. When the shareholders are people with a long-term stake in the company, like the founders, they can make long-term decisions or choose not to want the absolute most profit-maximizing thing because actually they're already pretty rich and maybe some things are more important. When they're fund managers, they want quarterly prof…

Who says large funds don't have long-term stakes and can't help make long-term decisions?

Fund managers want perhaps to see quarterly profits for their fund, but that's not the same thing as quarterly profits at the underlying companies. Your fund can also profit, if the stock prices of the underlying companies rise.

To give some existence proofs, have a look at how Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Tesla etc had rising share prices long before they ever returned any money to shareholders.

Or how shortly into the covid pandemic market prices for stocks recovered, even though the pandemic wasn't over at all: that was purely based on investors looking to the longer term future.

> [...] and their fund may not even own shares in that company in a year's time.

For that to happen, they need to sell the company to someone else, and that other person will pay more for a company with a bright future.

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