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Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces
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Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces
#162The old boys club which has been outsourcing programmer for 20 years to India figured out that they can just fake it since nobody has complained yet. And before software engineers unionize they came up with some snake oil to put us in our place, maybe try to force us back into offices, or just eliminate us. Nobody can deny that Sam Altman and Bill Gates have been trying to "reduce costs" for a long time. The startups…
> The startups with devs in portugal, costa rica, Mexico, Spain, the Ukraine, India, China, anyplace where they can pay 5 dollars for a day's work. I can speak to Portugal and Spain at least, and there's no chance you could ever get people in either of those to work for you at $5/day. You'd be laughed out of the room/conference call. And I'm pretty sure that's true for the rest of the list too.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that without massive safeguards, it is only going to become harder to discern between fact and fiction. The problem is that people must be able to discern between fact and fiction in order to live healthy lives. Reacting to AI by becoming laissez-faire about your information intake is just one more way for people to disconnect from reality. I think a good analogy is how technological advances made forging phy…
>without massive safeguards How do you even set safeguards for this?
Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having been online since about 1983, I never had this "trust-less" experience. I can understand what you're saying though, because by the time my kids started to be online in the 00s, I was generally trying to convey to them the same point that you're making.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've had many conversations with many people my age (mid 30s) about how we went from "don't post anything about yourself" to "post your entire life online" around when Facebook got big, so I don't think it's something that only I experienced. There's another commenter on this post saying something similar and I remember being taught about "internet safety" in middle scho…
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
This might just be a way of aging ourselves. I do feel that Facebook blatantly flipped the norm that you used a pseudonym and kept personal information private when communicating (much less publishing) online - that's the norm I grew up with in the 90s and even the early 00s.
Back on usenet in the 80s and 90s, your ID was essentially your email address (but likely using bang path notation). There no pseudonyms, and everyone was a real person with identifiable features and a real world location.
Earlier (pre-eternal september) usenet was definitely different though and I think much more like you say - sadly that was before I was old enough to get on-line, so I never saw it.
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There are few to no paths to a non-dystopian outcome currently.
> There are few to no paths to a non-dystopian outcome currently. Said Caveman 1 to Caveman 2 shortly after the discovery of fire. ;-)
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back on usenet in the 80s and 90s, your ID was essentially your email address (but likely using bang path notation). There no pseudonyms, and everyone was a real person with identifiable features and a real world location.
I was a heavy usenet user in the 1996-2000 era and this wasn't true for me or most of the groups i hung out on (and even less so for IRC chans). Earlier (pre-eternal september) usenet was definitely different though and I think much more like you say - sadly that was before I was old enough to get on-line, so I never saw it.
Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces
#168The old boys club which has been outsourcing programmer for 20 years to India figured out that they can just fake it since nobody has complained yet. And before software engineers unionize they came up with some snake oil to put us in our place, maybe try to force us back into offices, or just eliminate us. Nobody can deny that Sam Altman and Bill Gates have been trying to "reduce costs" for a long time. The startups…
> The startups with devs in portugal, costa rica, Mexico, Spain, the Ukraine, India, China, anyplace where they can pay 5 dollars for a day's work. I can speak to Portugal and Spain at least, and there's no chance you could ever get people in either of those to work for you at $5/day. You'd be laughed out of the room/conference call. And I'm pretty sure that's true for the rest of the list too.
Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces
#169I think we'll see media personalities move to a public key encryption model, where authentic streams are encrypted in some manner with a private key to verify their origin.
I don’t doubt it, but I do doubt that the majority of the public will make an effort to verify signatures before consuming media. I think the public will rely on trusted channels - like the personality’s .com or official YouTube channel.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it’s a boon for privacy. If fake images/videos/sound can easily be generated indistinguishable from actual footage, if there’s something embarrassing out there you can quite legitimately just claim it’s an AI hit piece by a hater.
People spread rumors today. "it could be a lie" is weak in practice. And if not, well now all crime is legal because nothing can be proven now that evidence can be fabricated.