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Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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mclide wrote: post #20
ChumpGPT wrote: post #11

Would a guy in his position even have access to these documents? I'm thinking that there has to be someone who shared them or at least shared a way to gain access to them. I'm sure the FBI will be following the trail of bread crumbs to the original source. Now if it turns out he is the original source, we're in huge trouble. Because a 21 year old kid working night shift in some remote Cape Cod office for the Massachu…

Given the large number of individuals that have access to such top secret documents, it is likely that enemies already are in the know of the sensitive information. Classifying information as top secret primarily functions to prevent the general public from the knowledge unless it is leaked to the press.

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Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by kipchak »

VLM wrote: post #66
2022-11-07 wrote: post #14

This story just doesn't compute with me. A young guy (21) seemingly had access to all this information, and shared it despite being Portuguese (based on his last name) so seemingly not ethnically tied to Russia, shared it openly on Discord with his gaming club, a full document dump literally hundreds of pages not just screenshots or summaries, but not before faking some of the information, coordinated by a group that…

People who don't understand the system think leaking classified data is either James Bond nonsense or its like Trade Secrets where once the cat's out of the bag and its public it doesn't matter. Say you're arguing about the top speed of an aircraft carrier or some BS, the topic doesn't actually matter. The top speed is classified but you know what it is and its documented in writing you know what it is. You google fo…

For your last paragraph, wouldn't this also apply if you formerly had a clearance per SF-312?

Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by InCityDreams »

pocketsand wrote: post #22
ChumpGPT wrote: post #11

Would a guy in his position even have access to these documents? I'm thinking that there has to be someone who shared them or at least shared a way to gain access to them. I'm sure the FBI will be following the trail of bread crumbs to the original source. Now if it turns out he is the original source, we're in huge trouble. Because a 21 year old kid working night shift in some remote Cape Cod office for the Massachu…

The dirty not-so-secret about national defense apparatus in this country is that there are thousands of people in these various sub-sub-wings of our military along side mediocre contractors cashing in on defense contracts who go through rudimentary security clearance checks and have access to all this information. I grew up outside DC and every so often you hear of the security clearance spooks interviewing you or so…

>It's a national disgrace.

No, it's s a national sport.

Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by nobody9999 »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #18
stefan_ wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's crazy that hes still out. Everyone learned of the name "Thug Shaker Central" 5 days ago, yet the government can't subpoena Discord for the 20 odd people on there and match it with enlisted? One of these "what is all that money going to" moments.

I'm sure he's under surveillance but there's no reason to arrest him until the case is airtight and they've followed all the strands

> I'm sure he's under surveillance but there's no reason to arrest him until the case is airtight and they've followed all the strands

As I just posted[0], my local news just showed video of folks in military garb handcuffing a young guy in mufti.

They say it was Jack Teixeira and I have no reason to doubt that.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35560644

Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by anthonygarcia21 »

TurkishPoptart wrote: post #53
ChumpGPT wrote: post #11

Would a guy in his position even have access to these documents? I'm thinking that there has to be someone who shared them or at least shared a way to gain access to them. I'm sure the FBI will be following the trail of bread crumbs to the original source. Now if it turns out he is the original source, we're in huge trouble. Because a 21 year old kid working night shift in some remote Cape Cod office for the Massachu…

Is it significant that the leaks were allegedly of photographs of printouts, with visible creases, as oppposed to being straight file-dumps? Maybe photographic a printout is better for opsec as opposed to files with some sort of DLP.

It's possible that he fished the printouts out of a poorly-secured document disposal bin and then snuck them out.

Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by thewildginger »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #12
ChumpGPT wrote: post #11

Would a guy in his position even have access to these documents? I'm thinking that there has to be someone who shared them or at least shared a way to gain access to them. I'm sure the FBI will be following the trail of bread crumbs to the original source. Now if it turns out he is the original source, we're in huge trouble. Because a 21 year old kid working night shift in some remote Cape Cod office for the Massachu…

I agree. He claimed to have been working inside a SCIF on a regular basis. I'm sure the National Guard would have or have access to such a facility, and have the necessary clearances. But I don't see how an inactive or active-for-training guardsman could have a need to access that much information.

There are 19 year olds with TS clearances. Some jobs just require it. It can be written into an enlistment contract. National guard and reserve units of different kinds are also kind of known for having serious racism problems. Racists use it to network and meet other racists, get the training and some credibility without actually committing to active duty. That shit in active duty is not tolerated, usually cause it's actually diverse unlike a reserve unit in a place like Massachusetts.

Another problem with clearances in general is that often those eligible come from less diverse backgrounds due to parental citizenship considerations. fields that require a clearance are often less diverse because of this.

People who have some time in the military probably won't be surprised if the situation is what the media is portraying it to be. As Abraham Lincoln pointed out about the US, the biggest problems for the country will come from within.

Re: Leader of Online Group Where Secret Documents Leaked Is Air National Guardsman

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Post by ncphil »

ChumpGPT wrote: post #11

Would a guy in his position even have access to these documents? I'm thinking that there has to be someone who shared them or at least shared a way to gain access to them. I'm sure the FBI will be following the trail of bread crumbs to the original source. Now if it turns out he is the original source, we're in huge trouble. Because a 21 year old kid working night shift in some remote Cape Cod office for the Massachu…

It's the addiction of staff officer ranks (mostly Colonels, Generals), as well as senior agency executives and politicians, to paper hardcopies. They all want their briefing materials printed out so they can scribble in the margins and look important (and maybe share them with financial advisors and donors). Although some enlisted ranks have had authorized access to this stuff in the past (Chelsea Manning), in many cases they're downloading and printing it out for their superiors. Can't have these VIPs doing their own print jobs, can we? The lot of them should be fired as at best too stupid and lazy to serve.
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