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European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

#41

Meanwhile, where are all the ChatGPT competitors of EU origin? I feel ashamed to live on this side of the Atlantic, sometimes.

What are you waiting for to build it?

There is no source of funding in Europe that can produce the billions raised by OpenAI in the US. Not even close.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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Don't be; look up some of the founders[1] of OpenAI: Ilya Sutskever - born in Russia Wojciech Zaremba - born in Poland Andrej Karpathy - born in Slovakia [1] according to wikipedia

That just makes it sadder. European talent and knowledge, monetized by the US. Unfortunately the European economic order is incompatible with this kind of startup. We do not have the capital to fund it, because we do not have public markets as developed.

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Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you waiting for to build it?

There is no source of funding in Europe that can produce the billions raised by OpenAI in the US. Not even close.

Totally untrue. Look at the VC money flowing to EU these days.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

#44

Meanwhile, where are all the ChatGPT competitors of EU origin? I feel ashamed to live on this side of the Atlantic, sometimes.

You're entirely free to move. The reason why there are no ChatGPT competitors of EU origin is the same reason why there is no SpaceX competitor in Europe. And that's not necessarily anything to be ashamed of, it simply means that the USA has the advantage and that once you reach a certain concentration of wealth it tends to lead to further concentrations of wealth. 400 years ago Europe was ascendant, today it is Amer…

It is literally 100X easier to launch an openai competitor than a spacex competitor.

The latter requires massive upfront non-retrievable investment.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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The last time they came up with a regulation, we got that GDPR awfulness. Made zero impact on anything, just forced me to click multiple buttons before visiting a website.

So far as I'm concerned, the only single thing wrong with the legislation is that all the companies reacted to it by deciding to do whatever it took to keep collecting data they didn't strictly need.

Well, almost all.

GitHub doesn't show you that popup, because it doesn't collect unnecessary data. Neither does Hacker News.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

#46

The last time they came up with a regulation, we got that GDPR awfulness. Made zero impact on anything, just forced me to click multiple buttons before visiting a website.

The GDPR is a very good piece of legislation. I fail to see where the awfulness is. Even if you discount the very significant new rights it gave to users, it did force all companies to actually think and take responsibility for what they collect. It’s a massive improvement from what was happening before.

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So much new legislation to write, so many budgets to allocate. Party hard!

With all the EU initiatives, one can see that some ideas make sense (securing privacy, regulating tech monopolies), but once it gets into legislations it ends up with monsters like the cookie banner or GDPR.

In the end it doesn't do what it was meant for but still remains a pain in the a*.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

#48

Meanwhile, where are all the ChatGPT competitors of EU origin? I feel ashamed to live on this side of the Atlantic, sometimes.

You're entirely free to move. The reason why there are no ChatGPT competitors of EU origin is the same reason why there is no SpaceX competitor in Europe. And that's not necessarily anything to be ashamed of, it simply means that the USA has the advantage and that once you reach a certain concentration of wealth it tends to lead to further concentrations of wealth. 400 years ago Europe was ascendant, today it is Amer…

Someone like you probably said that it was too late to launch a Ford’s competitor when they released the T in 1908.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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The last time they came up with a regulation, we got that GDPR awfulness. Made zero impact on anything, just forced me to click multiple buttons before visiting a website.

Keep in mind that the majority of those data processing consent banners aren't actually compliant - the GDPR has explicit provisions against dark pattern or the kind of malicious pseudo-compliance we often see.

The problem is that enforcement is severely lacking, thus most of those offenders actually get away with it.

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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The last time they came up with a regulation, we got that GDPR awfulness. Made zero impact on anything, just forced me to click multiple buttons before visiting a website.

Europeans have to register their address at all times with the government, need a passport to buy a SIM card, are prohibited from cash transactions above trivial amounts but at least they can contact the mandatory "data protection officer" and reject non-essential cookies!
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