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Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by ramraj07 »

neom wrote: post #23

After listening to this, I feel annoyed at the folks in the "AI clones teen girl’s voice in $1M kidnapping scam: ‘I’ve got your daughter’" thread that was on the front page yesterday saying "ppfftt bullshit you'd need to be an idiot to fall for an AI voice" - Guess I'm an idiot. Like it or not, generative media is getting better and better by the day.

at this point this is now a great metric to measure originality by - if people can’t distinguish the real you from generative AI you it just means you’ve fallen into a Rut or never had much nee to say anyway.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by chasd00 »

kneebonian wrote: post #57
NalNezumi wrote: post #18

Personally I love this new AI voice content booms. My favorite is the AI presidents discussing/playing/rating stuff [1], Attenborough narrating warhammer [2]. While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up. Which I think is a good trend. People getting depressed or so consumed by the internet culture that they loose all interest in th…

When I was growing up there were 3 rules about the internet 1. Never believe anything you see, hear or read on the internet. 2. Never give out personal information of any kind. 3. Every girl that wanted to meet you on the internet was an FBI agent. It seems like almost every problem we've had with the internet comes from breaking one of those three rules. I wish/hope we could/can go back.

> 3. Every girl that wanted to meet you on the internet was an FBI agent.

i can't remember who said it but there was a tagline for a while that went "The Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the teen girls are FBI agents".

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by theonemind »

UnpossibleJim wrote: post #27
dmix wrote: post #16

Rogan is always the first one to be used as input/demo for this stuff. I have a feeling it's going to remain the trend for every new AI tool.

There's just so much data available, I don't see how it couldn't be the prevailing trend.

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Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by boredemployee »

majormajor wrote: post #48
boredemployee wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> We might be just going back to the time of early, anonymous internet forums time where most people used to it just didn't take it too seriously Man I was just thinking about it lastnite. Back in the day we were (at some level) respectful to each other in places like IRC and forums, even tho nobody knew each other. And when some idiot started to f- around you had IRCOps and moderators, so it was somewhat easier and…

I don't think these things follow from each other. Smaller-scale, pre-social-media forums and such in many ways took things more seriously, not less. The poster-to-moderator ratio was WAY lower than somewhere like Facebook or Twitter, and things got handled faster. Internet content was generally not taken too seriously, but internet communities were still serious, and they had better tools for enforcement than they d…

>> The poster-to-moderator ratio was WAY lower than somewhere like Facebook or Twitter, and things got handled faster.

But, honestly and genuinely asking here: isn't that exacly what happens when all you think is about scale, money and growth, at all costs? (I mean, on the big social networks side)

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by gavinhoward »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #71
justapassenger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up I think that’s a very naive view point. Internet is core part of today’s society, like it or not. It’s almost like saying that since we invented home printer, which make it easy to forge money, people will just take money less seriously.

If you don't mind my saying so, I think it's your point of view that's naive. OP is talking about a large cultural shift, the type that skeptics said was impossible back at the advent of the web. The orthodox opinion was that the web was a fad and we'd all be reading newspapers and using coin-operated phones forever. The scale of change that he’s describing — where the internet ceases to become a source-of-truth — wo…

The reason newspapers shifted away from being core is because there were other communication media to replace them. There aren't such replacements for the Internet.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by alexb_ »

This isn't a new issue. Image and likeness laws exist for a reason.

A more clear example on how this could be harmful, and how we are already equipped to deal with this - I saw an ad for a supplement that had a convincing AI Joe Rogan "talking about it on his podcast" and how it's the greatest thing that everyone needs to buy. This is illegal currently, and it's not any different from hiring a Joe Rogan impersonator to talk in a similar looking podcast set to trick people. It's why we have systems to enforce ownership over trademarks, copyrights, and your own image.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by rebuilder »

NalNezumi wrote: post #18

Personally I love this new AI voice content booms. My favorite is the AI presidents discussing/playing/rating stuff [1], Attenborough narrating warhammer [2]. While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up. Which I think is a good trend. People getting depressed or so consumed by the internet culture that they loose all interest in th…

I kind of expect things to go the way Peter Watts prophesied in the Behemoth trilogy - the Internet becomes infested with self-replicating spambot-descendants to the point that an open, global network becomes untenable.

No-one’s coupled an LLM with a worm yet AFAIK but I see no reason to think it will take very long.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by hgsgm »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #71
justapassenger wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While slightly silly, I think in future people might start to take internet way less serious when you can literally make things up I think that’s a very naive view point. Internet is core part of today’s society, like it or not. It’s almost like saying that since we invented home printer, which make it easy to forge money, people will just take money less seriously.

If you don't mind my saying so, I think it's your point of view that's naive. OP is talking about a large cultural shift, the type that skeptics said was impossible back at the advent of the web. The orthodox opinion was that the web was a fad and we'd all be reading newspapers and using coin-operated phones forever. The scale of change that he’s describing — where the internet ceases to become a source-of-truth — wo…

Urban Buildings were important before WWII firebombing.

I don't think it would be progress to abandon cities because someone figured out how to destroy them.

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

UnpossibleJim wrote: post #27
dmix wrote: post #16

Rogan is always the first one to be used as input/demo for this stuff. I have a feeling it's going to remain the trend for every new AI tool.

There's just so much data available, I don't see how it couldn't be the prevailing trend.

meme - not trend

Re: Joe Rogan Issues Warning After AI-Generated Version of His Podcast Surfaces

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Post by hgsgm »

dogma1138 wrote: post #74
nperrier wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that's possible. How do you know for certain it's not an AI on the other end impersonating a human? Clever people will find ways to game it.

Ironically AI spam might actually make “blockchain” or at least widespread of digital signatures useful ofc it would also mean an end to a mostly anonymous internet.

Without Internet Security, signatures mean nothing.
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