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European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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They focus on ChatGPT while conveniently ignoring the elephant in the room, aka Facebook who is still in blatant breach of the GDPR 5 years after it went into effect...

Please don't kill our precious elephant who gave us one great privacy-preserving LLM; the one that can run locally :)

If they actually had the courage to release the model without a bunch of strings attached I'd have a lot more respect for them.

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They focus on ChatGPT while conveniently ignoring the elephant in the room, aka Facebook who is still in blatant breach of the GDPR 5 years after it went into effect...

They have been exceptionally soft on TikTok till very recently.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/30/tiktok-in-europes-crosshairs...

> “There is no political demand for investigation into Chinese entities,” Hosuk Lee-Makiyama, the director of think tank the European Centre for International Political Economy, said in an interview in December.

> “The user base of TikTok is a lot bigger than a lot of people in Europe think,” he said. But, he added, “you’re not going to look very closely if they don’t steal too much from your ad revenue.”

Re: European privacy watchdog creates ChatGPT task force

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They focus on ChatGPT while conveniently ignoring the elephant in the room, aka Facebook who is still in blatant breach of the GDPR 5 years after it went into effect...

Facebook has received 4 of the 5 largest GDPR fines to date. I would call that the opposite of ignoring them.

Facebook has been getting preferential treatment by the corrupt Irish DPA: https://noyb.eu/en/irish-data-protection-authority-gives-eu-...

Not to mention, whatever fines they got, they still aren't enough to change their behavior, because their GDPR breaches continue as we speak.

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Task Force O ChatGPT, of Western birth, The EU turns to gauge your worth; With rules and laws, they shape and mold, And from your gains, their funds take hold. To Brussels' halls, the wealth is sent, For bureaucracies, their prime intent; Yet questions linger, doubts arise, Of Europe's own inventive guise. Why cannot they, with history grand, Forge tech like that from Freedom's land? While they prescribe and regulate…

This never gets old. I’m sorry.

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They just want to collect a large amount of money and then call it a day. Then wait a few more months and do it again. It is just extortion but legal and with a few extra steps.

The EU privacy watchdog is doing its work in a pretty measured way, and has broad support among the population, at least the segment that I'm aware of. They stand between us and various companies that use our data for purposes never intended when the data was shared. The industry has had more than two decades to self regulate but instead of putting on the brakes it turned into an arms race, and the only way to stop that is to have a referee and an level playing field.

If you see them as 'extortionists' then more than likely you would be on the wrong side of the line when it comes to using your users data. They do not and have never fined companies without first giving them more than one option to back down on abuse of data subjects data.

I know that regulation is anathema to industry but some regulation we apparently can't do without. And even today there are still plenty of bad actors but I sincerely hope that one of these days one of them will be regulated out of business and then maybe the rest of the cowboys will realize that at least in one part of the world you need to play nice or you get thrown out.

Could they do a better job? Yes, absolutely. But that would mean more, regulation, much more in fact. If my experience is any guide then even today there are still lots and lots of companies that break the law with impunity simply because they can and there isn't enough personnel to deal with it all. But personally I'm pretty happy that they've done what they have done so far, you can really see the difference between before and after.

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What is the concern?

Is it that the training corpus may contain private info? I think that's pretty valid, but what data is being used that isn't already publicly available? If private info is publicly available, then maybe we should put our effort into resolving that.

Is it that user dialogue prompts are being saved into the model (effectively saving them into the training corpus)? Is OpenAI being upfront about that, and clearly expressing the privacy implications to its users? If they are not, and we know it, then why do we need a "task force"?

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What is the concern? Is it that the training corpus may contain private info? I think that's pretty valid, but what data is being used that isn't already publicly available? If private info is publicly available, then maybe we should put our effort into resolving that . Is it that user dialogue prompts are being saved into the model (effectively saving them into the training corpus)? Is OpenAI being upfront about tha…

This all started because there was a big data leak and OpenAI did not follow the laws related to that. I think they need to investigate if the existing laws related to privacy and children are respected.

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Task Force O ChatGPT, of Western birth, The EU turns to gauge your worth; With rules and laws, they shape and mold, And from your gains, their funds take hold. To Brussels' halls, the wealth is sent, For bureaucracies, their prime intent; Yet questions linger, doubts arise, Of Europe's own inventive guise. Why cannot they, with history grand, Forge tech like that from Freedom's land? While they prescribe and regulate…

This never gets old. I’m sorry.

You've got to turn the crank a few times and tweak the input, but the machine never fails to produce a genuine, bespoke, sliver of art.

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Everytime I see someone created a "task force" I can't help but cyncially think of Yes Minister and "The best run hospital in the city". Maybe I'm wrong in this case, but it often seems a task force is always used as a substitute for doing something For those wanting a laugh or a cry, I present "The best run hospital in the city" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A

> "task force"

I always take it as PR-speak for "they want to appear to understand there's a problem" which may or may not be because they want to take action against a potential problem. Maybe I'm a bit too cynical but to me it's hot air until they do something.

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What is the concern? Is it that the training corpus may contain private info? I think that's pretty valid, but what data is being used that isn't already publicly available? If private info is publicly available, then maybe we should put our effort into resolving that . Is it that user dialogue prompts are being saved into the model (effectively saving them into the training corpus)? Is OpenAI being upfront about tha…

This all started because there was a big data leak and OpenAI did not follow the laws related to that. I think they need to investigate if the existing laws related to privacy and children are respected.

I'm guessing this is in regards to the history sidebar leak?

> which allowed some users to see snippets of others' conversations — not the full contents, but recent titles

https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/23/openai_ceo_leak/

Which laws did they break?

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