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‘Overemployed’ Hustlers Exploit ChatGPT to Take on Even More Full-Time Jobs

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The idea of multiplying the number of stakeholders I deal with by 2-4 gives me chills, even with help. The psychic toll of dealing will all these micro tasks while also being deceitful all day long is not worth the FIRE.

When you can generate close to a million usd a year, keeping it up for 5 formative years doesn't seem that bad. You can coast for the rest of your life on very little work afterwards.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly feel like this LLM hype should have revealed the bullshit job phenomenon [1] to the world. Instead nobody questions their bullshit reality, and assumes that if a program can perform in bullshit, it is as conscious as a person. [1]: Graeber https://www.atlasofplaces.com/essays/on-the-phenomenon-of-bu...

Graeber's claim about bullshit jobs can be trivially dismissed. If there were actually many bullshit jobs in some profitable company then eventually a competitor with fewer bullshit jobs and thus lower costs would come in and eat their lunch. While middle managers in some organizations do engage in empire building to inflate their own importance, senior executives generally don't hesitate to cut costs by laying off u…

Ah, famously easy to measure knowledge worker productivity!

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This tech could lead to is all living more wonderful and thoughtful lives with the extra time it would gift us.

But no. We will most likely fight over the few remaining jobs as the owners of the AI take the rewards.

Sad. But hopefully it does not happen.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly feel like this LLM hype should have revealed the bullshit job phenomenon [1] to the world. Instead nobody questions their bullshit reality, and assumes that if a program can perform in bullshit, it is as conscious as a person. [1]: Graeber https://www.atlasofplaces.com/essays/on-the-phenomenon-of-bu...

Maybe LLMs can reduce the work week at least. 30 hours, 20 hours even?

I think it's incredibly naive to think that an increase in your productivity will result in a reduction of hours worked, especially at the same pay.

No, you'll just be given more work to do. If it takes you 20 hours/week to finish what took you 40 hours/week last year, you'll just be given double the work to complete and at the same salary/wage.

Make no mistake, the prime benefactor of increased automation won't be the workers, it'll be the owners.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly feel like this LLM hype should have revealed the bullshit job phenomenon [1] to the world. Instead nobody questions their bullshit reality, and assumes that if a program can perform in bullshit, it is as conscious as a person. [1]: Graeber https://www.atlasofplaces.com/essays/on-the-phenomenon-of-bu...

Graeber's claim about bullshit jobs can be trivially dismissed. If there were actually many bullshit jobs in some profitable company then eventually a competitor with fewer bullshit jobs and thus lower costs would come in and eat their lunch. While middle managers in some organizations do engage in empire building to inflate their own importance, senior executives generally don't hesitate to cut costs by laying off u…

Bullshit Jobs isn’t about people doing nothing all day.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Graeber's claim about bullshit jobs can be trivially dismissed. If there were actually many bullshit jobs in some profitable company then eventually a competitor with fewer bullshit jobs and thus lower costs would come in and eat their lunch. While middle managers in some organizations do engage in empire building to inflate their own importance, senior executives generally don't hesitate to cut costs by laying off u…

Bullshit Jobs isn’t about people doing nothing all day.

So what? I never claimed that it was.

If anyone wants us to believe that bullshit jobs are common then they need to explain why senior executives who are generally ruthless in conducting layoffs would choose to keep many employees who aren't contributing to profit margins. The number of bullshit jobs is more than zero, but as an economic concept it's just totally implausible on a large scale. This is one of those "just so" stories: it sounds truthy but when you dig in there's little hard data or reproducible experiments.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bullshit Jobs isn’t about people doing nothing all day.

So what? I never claimed that it was. If anyone wants us to believe that bullshit jobs are common then they need to explain why senior executives who are generally ruthless in conducting layoffs would choose to keep many employees who aren't contributing to profit margins. The number of bullshit jobs is more than zero, but as an economic concept it's just totally implausible on a large scale. This is one of those "ju…

Again, it’s not about not contributing to the organization. You should read the book.

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I'd be very very curious to follow the life of all these "chatgpt does 80% of my work" people. Unless you code to-do list and sudoku html "apps" all day I doubt it's anywhere close to true

Yup - one has to keep in mind that if they're bullshitting their various "employers", they're probably doing the same to our hapless journalist as well.
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