What you call a "shutdown spree" I call a "focus fest".
Google has already pulled six products in 2023
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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023
#192Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?
I can only speak for myself, but in my view Google is an notoriously unreliable partner because it often pulls products and services with relatively short notice, and often with a poor path forward if at all.
Not saying Microsoft is perfect, but in my personal experience they've been a lot better in these key metrics.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could say the same about Google Earth on mobile. Do you need a separate app? I’m honestly surprised it still exists.
Google earth on mobile lets you load up local KML files, which I don't think normal maps does
Google has never been great at integrating their acquisitions. Even their own video search still can't seem to match YouTube's search for things on YouTube even with exact titles. Google Earth started as Keyhole. It's the K in KML. It gained notoriety pre-acquisition for being used in reporting on the invasion of Iraq. Maps was a different company.
You can export and import KML in Maps, but it's in a separate custom map interface under Saved->Maps. It's not integrated with the main interface like in Earth as far as I can tell. If there's a way to load them like overlays in Earth, that would be useful.
Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023
#194I have never even heard of Google Jacquard, was it maybe advertised more in the US than in Europe? It seems like an interesting concept, since hands-free control of your phone via speech is often too awkward to use in public imho. Maybe it'll come back when the hardware is able to shrink even more, making it less conspicuous.
I actually got a Levi's / google jacquard trucker jacket (on a good sale). It had potential but Google never seemed to do anything with it. It's pretty inconspicuous already but the Google app for it is very limited. If they open source it I think we could have some fun with the tech.
I tried reading the product page an I feel like I'm having a stroke... How hard can it be to explain what it actually is? So far I roughly got "tracker that connects to a trucker jacket". WHAT?
And then all it was was basically a touch sensor for your jacket sleeve, that you can use to control your phone.
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Google Cloud “is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding” [1]. [1] https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-202...
I work at Google so am perhaps biased, but that article is from 2019 and cloud is now a 20B/yr business and growing. Why does it keep coming up?
There’s a bias here for AWS because they were the early adopter product and have traction with startups.
I think Google is more creative on the business side with GCP and is doing well in the market in a lot of ways. AWS does the circa 1985 “Hi, we’re IBM, fuck you” thing.
Azure doesn’t get the grief GCP does because MS service growth is driven by really complicated deals. Few of the types of people who post here understand it.
Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023
#196This is why I can’t bring myself to buy any google product since there’s a good chance it won’t be supported in a couple of years.
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They used to do public betas. I remember Gmail being labeled beta in the early days.
Yeah, with unlimited storage for life. Acquiring userbase with empty promises is their M.O.
When was Gmail ever sold as unlimited? When it came out the big deal was that it offered 1GB, which absolutely destroyed the 5-10MB most free providers were offering at the time.
I recall a time where they were raising the limit constantly and even advertised that fact, that for most users your available space was going to increase faster than you could use it, but there was always a limit somewhere.
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Amazon and Microsoft would have graveyeards just as large, if compiled via the same criteria. You know all that shit Google gets about chat apps? Microsoft has also launched and killed more than a dozen of them. Jeff Bezos used to brag about how many failed products they launched and killed. So it comes back to the question that ed_mercer had: why is there such a double standard? Why does somebody obsessively maintai…
> Microsoft has also launched and killed more than a dozen of them Microsoft is religious about maintaining backward compatibility and support. They also have some concept of service, which makes cancellations smoother. (All this makes product development aware of the costs of abandonment. Google doesn’t have that in its culture, and it’s a constant problem with hiring from them now.)
Mostly, they really messed up in Win32 => WinRT => UAP => UWP => WinUI 3.0, and .NET Framework to .NET Core, to the point .NET Framework is the "Python 2" of Microsoft's ecosystems, and no one besides WinDev themselves takes WinUI/WinAppSDK seriously.
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They used to do public betas. I remember Gmail being labeled beta in the early days.
Yeah, with unlimited storage for life. Acquiring userbase with empty promises is their M.O.
Wasn't it originally 1 GB? Then they doubled it on April fools one year and started increasing it from there.
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Gmail was in beta for 5 years, from 2004 until 2009 — imho it didn’t make much sense to label something as beta when it is used by ~1B people.
i think it's about expectations
I think its about copping out of any responsibility.
Sure, go ahead. But the market will take notice if you do that.