Google has already pulled six products in 2023 • Hacker News Board

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by blibble » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:54 AM UTC

manojlds wrote: post #5

dubcanada wrote: post #4

Ouch, not a good look when people lose almost complete faith in your hardware products. Every one I know of has been shut down at this point. Why would I buy a Google Hardware ever? Especially considering how they treated the Onhub... Stadia Onhub Glass

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet?

otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call

https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte...

phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by esskay » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:54 AM UTC

and this is why I wont use Google products. You can't trust them not to pull the plug.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:54 AM UTC

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Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by usrusr » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:55 AM UTC

I love these Google shutdown posts: whenever a headline like this comes up I wonder how many of those former Google products I've actually heard of.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by quickthrower2 » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

How safe is Firebase?

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by klabb3 » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

cgio wrote: post #2

Is Fuchsia on this list too, even unofficially so?

If I had a penny for every time I hear this.. yes they had big layoffs, but they also hired like crazy for a long time.

Fuchsia is maybe 1/4 product and the rest is a long term infrastructure investment. If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now, for instance stadia rose and fell in a shorter time span than all of fuchsia.

I don’t know whether fuchsia will “make it”, heck a frustrated enough SvP can probably kill it if they really wanted to. However, fuchsia never lived in the same world as the rest of Google, or even the platform & ecosystems org (Android & ChromeOS), not really.

Nobody ever expected a new OS and kernel to be a mainstream success in single digit years. It’s an insane project to take on, and ironically that insanity keeps a lot of the short term opportunists away, specifically the kind that leaves a crater after them when they leave..

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by Kuinox » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

manojlds wrote: post #5

dubcanada wrote: post #4

Ouch, not a good look when people lose almost complete faith in your hardware products. Every one I know of has been shut down at this point. Why would I buy a Google Hardware ever? Especially considering how they treated the Onhub... Stadia Onhub Glass

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

Pixel still had recent major software issues (Crashing when calling emergencies, a year after the first reports), or ongoing issue, like massive battery drains in certain conditions.

I bought a Pixel 6, I don't think I'll buy another Pixel again.

The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year (my own 3D printed case in TPU now lasted longer than google one). The official pixel case also caught some dust and scratched the glass of the back.

The pixel without a case is so slippery it slip alone on any surface not perfectly flat.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

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Post by usrusr » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

What would you consider a lesson lernt from that perception? Never ever start anything new unless you want to bet the company on running it forever?

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Post by chongli » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:57 AM UTC

bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

I've never worked at Google so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Everything I've heard (mostly on HN) about working there is that there are simply too many perverse incentives to abandon products. People get promoted for creating exciting new products and then leave those products behind at their new position.

Up-and-comers are also incentivized to do the same thing. There seems to be no appetite whatsoever for hiring "steady hand on the tiller" type people. The whole company DNA is built around hiring elite graduates fresh out of school.

It's the classic "too many chefs in the kitchen" problem.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 10:58 AM UTC

bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

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