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Court fees: $70
Could be recovered in a winning case, right?
ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license
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#292The problem with such betrayal is, that companies names are all but smoke and mirrors by now. The reputational damage should be tracking with the leading employees. One customer betrayal travels along with the manager who caused it, to whatever company s/he touches. No matter how the company is named, no matter how much branding, one linked in api roll call later you know what you got.
2. Most startups fail, they tend to abandon their customers with little or no warning, and then write a boastful blog post like it's okay and normal to throw away what could've been a business to someone else if they tried to find a home for it. To me, that's disrespectful of both investors' and customers' time and money.
3. Most "brands" on Amazon tend to be meaningless nonsense because a reseller overseas decided to satisfy the need to call it something and just pick whatever because they don't intend to stick around. As soon as people find out they're selling junk or they have a problem, they throw it away and pull another brand from the disposable brand box.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chargebacks can be challenged and challanges can be won by the merchants, in which case you will end up with an attempted fraud on your bank record.
I'm not going to expend effort arguing with this, I just want anyone reading it to know that it's completely untrue
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We have courts of law that determine fact, and if the behavior isn’t criminal, we have civil courts as well. For professionals we have ethics boards and censuring processes. But do we really want to set up a system where people vote people out of their careers with no review or process? How do you prevent this from being abused? Or worse expanding beyond the original remit to more facets of life? There’s a reason we…
I didn't have such a draconian interpretation of the idea. I don't know where you got "lynch mob", "ruin[ing] random people" and "social credit score" from it to be honest. Quite a dramatic take. Individuals and companies knowing more information about the professional history of the people they're doing business with is always better.
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Take them to court. File a grievance. But opening individuals to ruin by internet trolls for lulz, or worse making everyone’s life dictated by collaborative filtering - there’s no good to come of it. Human lives aren’t like product reviews. Scarlet lettering people isn’t a good idea - maybe it works for some, but there will be a lot of innocent people destroyed along the way. Or, people who made unethical decisions a…
The court system has decided that individuals aren’t liable for their actions taken on behalf of a company, but the company is. But a company is merely a temporary arrangement of people! It can be dissolved and reformed any number of times with any number of names with only marginal annoyance. The corporation is the end of responsibility.
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The problem with that is security bugs.
Traditionally, security updates had always been free. There's no reason why that can't be the case again. The problem is that the industry has largely decided to combine security and feature updates into an inseparable whole, which I think is a bad thing both from the customer's point of view and from a security point of view.
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JetBrains actually ended up with this model after a lot of pushback when they tried changing their model a few years ago. But it's good that they listened, and now are even touted as the go-to best-practice.
JetBrains has one of the less obnoxious licensing models, but it still prevents me from considering giving them any money.
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This is a great idea! A while back I had an idea to maybe scrape Linkedin(or download one of their numerous dumps) to help "track" executive movement from company to company and set alerts if I use products from the new company so I can have a heads up before they inevitably turn to shit. Alternatively, I was also looking to expand this to when companies get bought out by those vulture capital "management" firms as t…
Can’t wait for the social credit score determining people’s career prospects!
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From your quote: >access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started . (my emphasis) As for the rest of the quote from Jetbrains: >You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for. In a one year subscription, the only version you will have paid 12 consecutive months for is the version that existed at the beginning of the 12…
What you're missing is that a one year monthly subscription isn't a thing. You buy a monthly subscription and then cancel it some number of months later. At that point you get the most recent version you've paid twelve months for. If you cancel a monthly subscription after paying three months you get nothing, because you haven't paid for any version for 13 months. You paid for a yearly subscription. So you've paid fo…
I showed you screenshot proof that even though 2023.1 is the current version. I only have a perpetual ("fallback") license for 2022.3. What, do you think I faked the screenshot?
This is such a weird exchange.
Here's another link to their site. After you realize you're wrong, I hope you're a little bit bothered by JetBrains antics. All this confusion is entirely on purpose.
Link: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206544479-Subs...
Quote from that page:
>If purchasing annually: You will immediately get a perpetual fallback license for the exact version available at the time of purchase. This license will allow you to use that exact version of the software should you decide to discontinue the subscription after the year is up.
I wish I found that page to begin with, but like I said - JetBrains has made it difficult to get a clear answer. So here we are.
Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license
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The very fact that it's possible for it to not work out makes it a deceptive term because it's not a "lifetime license". If you actually buy software, there is no possibility that the company can take it away from you.
> The very fact that it's possible for it to not work out makes it a deceptive term because it's not a "lifetime license". Naw, by that logic any sale of any kind is “deceptive”. You’re conflating sometimes with always. The existence of dishonest people doesn’t make you a dishonest person, right?
How so? Nobody is going to repossess something I've actually purchased. That's the whole point of a purchase.
A "lifetime license" is not like that.