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Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by jesterson »

mabbo wrote: post #49

While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…

> How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now?

Nearly zero. Hate to be the guy who says "told ya", but when everyone was mesmerised by gmail "oh how cool it is!", it was already clear why they are doing it.

Never used their services and would advise anyone the same. Not just google but any other "bells and whistles" services from large corporations.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by majani »

evandale wrote: post #107

I was talking to a non-tech friend about all the AI advancements lately and when she asked me what I thought the biggest risk was I said it's exactly what we all just experienced the past 3 years and realized is awful for human - prolonged social isolation. My biggest worry is that AI generated art (be it photos, music, code, etc.) and AI assistants will become so good we won't need other humans to get our social fix…

Or that any telecommunication gets delegated to AI, so as long as your not in the same room with someone, chances are you're speaking to their AI assistant

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by 1attice »

epups wrote: post #349
1attice wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Those two are grest examples of companies being hit with huge fines or bans in the EU after their practices were discovered. Saying "capitalism" as if that's an argument is juvenile - by that logic we will soon be enslaved by big corporations, nothing we can do about it then.

'juvenile' is a juvenile way of describing a ~200-year-old intellectual tradition that you disagree with. Go call Piketty.

And yes, frankly, the emergence of generative AI does vastly accelerate the normal power concentration inherent in unregulated capitalist accumulation. Bad thing go fast now soon.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by hammyhavoc »

mabbo wrote: post #49

While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…

How do I know you're one of my friends and not just a replicant?

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Post by epups »

1attice wrote: post #353
epups wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those two are grest examples of companies being hit with huge fines or bans in the EU after their practices were discovered. Saying "capitalism" as if that's an argument is juvenile - by that logic we will soon be enslaved by big corporations, nothing we can do about it then.

'juvenile' is a juvenile way of describing a ~200-year-old intellectual tradition that you disagree with. Go call Piketty. And yes, frankly, the emergence of generative AI does vastly accelerate the normal power concentration inherent in unregulated capitalist accumulation. Bad thing go fast now soon.

I've read Piketty, he calls for more regulation to address the issues associated with disparities in capital accumulation. He does not merely puts his hands in the air and predicts inescapable doom.

The irony here is that Western capitalist democracies are the only place where we can even think about getting these privacy protections.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by 1attice »

epups wrote: post #355
1attice wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'juvenile' is a juvenile way of describing a ~200-year-old intellectual tradition that you disagree with. Go call Piketty. And yes, frankly, the emergence of generative AI does vastly accelerate the normal power concentration inherent in unregulated capitalist accumulation. Bad thing go fast now soon.

I've read Piketty, he calls for more regulation to address the issues associated with disparities in capital accumulation. He does not merely puts his hands in the air and predicts inescapable doom. The irony here is that Western capitalist democracies are the only place where we can even think about getting these privacy protections.

A straw man. There's no doom, just a worsening of present patterns.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by luxcem »

mabbo wrote: post #49

While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…

Straight up black mirror dystopia.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by Malp »

> I am so bad at iterating over dataframes! It always feels horrible and slow. While doing this though, I discovered that using df.to_dict('records') and then iterating over the resulting dictionary is almost 100x faster than using the pandas built-in iteration tools like df.itertuples() or df.iterrows()!

That's really surprising to hear, any context on why this is? Very fun read BTW, my friends and I have joked about making something similar for our DMs (nicknamed MattGPT) and giving "them" topics to discuss + observing what they come up with.

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Post by sebastianconcpt »

flangola7 wrote: post #246
sebastianconcpt wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, my maxim with AIs is that all they express is a lie unless proven true. Nothing good can come out of taking too seriously the output of algebra parrots.

It's a parrot that a growing number of people have said made them unemployed.

Oh that part is very real indeed.

Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages

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Post by wintermutestwin »

Zetice wrote: post #315
wintermutestwin wrote: post #273

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>they aren't able to read your emails or use them as training data for an LLM. I'd love to see the policy or law that prevents Google from doing either.

https://policies.google.com/privacy?hl=en-US

I don't see anything that prevents them from feeding your emails into an LLM.

I do see:

"We use data to build better services"

"We restrict access to personal information to Google employees, contractors, and agents who need that information in order to process it."

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