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Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by hiisukun » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:17 AM UTC

handsclean wrote: post #31

This “every single pixel” stuff reminds me of how many people will work at a tube of toothpaste for a minute just to squeeze out one more drop. It’s not really about getting more toothpaste, because you could easily just buy more. It’s also not really about getting the most toothpaste for your money, because you’re likely not also focusing on cheap tubes, bulk buys, etc. It’s certainly not about getting the most toot…

I'm a toothpaste last-bit-squeezer for sure. It's not loss aversion -- it's waste aversion. There's probably lots of reasons why I don't like to see things wasted, including social, or family upbringing, or personality. But I have the same impulses with food, clothes, computers, almost everything.

I don't always buy food in bulk to save on cost, or look for the best deals, but whatever I have bought I try my best not to waste. It's irresponsible. Maybe in some ways I feel it's bad for the environment, or sets a bad precedent for how I think people should behave. I don't mind what sort of things you choose to buy or like, but I would prefer you don't waste them.

Resources of all kinds are limited, so making the most of what we have is an important principle, at least for me. Sometimes it's silly -- eg. I really should replace those old socks with holes in them, I can definitely afford new ones, but if something can do a bit more before being thrown away or replaced, I'll try and get that much more out of it.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by skrrtww » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

Trying this out because this has annoyed me in certain apps. Mostly fullscreen games.

Another wrinkle the author does not mention: If the application in question is x86_64, you will need the x86_64 version of frida running through Rosetta.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by ggregoire » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:19 AM UTC

I tried to play Slay The Spire in fullscreen on my M1 but the top on the UI is hidden under the black bar that Apple added to hide the notch. Can't see the potions and golds.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by DonHopkins » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:19 AM UTC

acedTrex wrote: post #11

lannisterstark wrote: post #10

I've actually been debating getting a 14 MBP M1 for about $1500 on open box stores etc (woot), or on sale or what not but cannot justify spending 1.5k on a laptop lol. I have a desktop and a Thinkpad T430 if I need to go somewhere. Also have a tablet and such. I definitely do need a "better" laptop but my justification is that I'm not outside the house often enough for me to buy the MBP. Which, realistically, is true…

I spent 3.4k on my m1 64gb and tbh its some of the best money ive ever spent

The only problem I've had with my M1 is that my nightmares about losing it are dreadful, but waking up and realizing it was only a dream and it's still there is a huge relief.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by wahnfrieden » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:53 AM UTC

EthicalSimilar wrote: post #14

ThorsBane wrote: post #9

My 16" MBP would be a perfect device if they could either put the webcam/sensor array behind the glass or just get rid of it. If I want to FaceTime I can use an iPad or iPhone as a peripheral attachment. At this point, virtually perfect hardware is being ruined by a notch. :( It's a reminder every time that there are still design limitations to overcome and engineering feats to be achieved for the next 1,000 years. 8…

I imagine this will come to iPhone first, then MacBook’s (maybe limited to the Pro’s?) a year or two later.

faceid under screen on iphone is still several years out

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by mikepurvis » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 12:57 AM UTC

thoughtsimple wrote: post #35

glhaynes wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're price-sensitive and not already doing so, include the M2 MBA (or, hell, even the M1 MBA) in your calculations. Great machines, way more than sufficient for most. Though there are some nice, fun luxury (again, for most) features on the MBPs, too.

I’ve been doing ReactJS development with both the M1 and now the M2 MacBook Air for a year now. My app’s transpiler production build takes about 5 seconds and any development incremental is essentially instantaneous. I can’t imagine most developers work even stressing an M2 unless you are compiling chrome or something. Best thing as a contractor I don’t even bother to bring a power adapter. I work for 8 hours and lea…

As a Dell XPS user I'm so jealous of laptops with competent power management.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by elzbardico » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

Unrelated. But anyone knows if there is a way to pin the dock to a single display?

it is kind of annoying when you have multiple displays, how the dock moves almost randomly between then when you move your mouse close to the bottom of a display. If at least it was not random, but no, sometimes you can hover your mouse pointer for hours in the bottom of a screen and the dock won't move there, other times, just looking at the display will move the Dock.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by philippejara » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 1:20 AM UTC

handsclean wrote: post #31

This “every single pixel” stuff reminds me of how many people will work at a tube of toothpaste for a minute just to squeeze out one more drop. It’s not really about getting more toothpaste, because you could easily just buy more. It’s also not really about getting the most toothpaste for your money, because you’re likely not also focusing on cheap tubes, bulk buys, etc. It’s certainly not about getting the most toot…

You have a white menu bar that suddenly just gets cut off by a black square, its distracting and jarring. I can assure you the people that are giving up the entirety of length of this bar to not have the black portion stick out aren't worried about "waste".

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by mjmsmith » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 1:32 AM UTC

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #5

Just got an M2 MBA and it's such a fantastic upgrade from my old intel MBP, but the notch is a bit more distracting than I'd like. It's awkwardly large, and the corner rounding is a lot worse than the notched iPhones imo. Its saving grace is that the screen is 16:10, and all pixels where the notch lives are bonus pixels, so it's still a net win in usable screen space vs 16:9 laptops. Still, this is a nice workaround!

https://topnotch.app makes it less distracting. I've come to prefer the look, even on my (un-notched) iMac.

Re: Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch

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Post by zamadatix » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 1:33 AM UTC

handsclean wrote: post #31

This “every single pixel” stuff reminds me of how many people will work at a tube of toothpaste for a minute just to squeeze out one more drop. It’s not really about getting more toothpaste, because you could easily just buy more. It’s also not really about getting the most toothpaste for your money, because you’re likely not also focusing on cheap tubes, bulk buys, etc. It’s certainly not about getting the most toot…

> It’s not really about getting more toothpaste, because you could easily just buy more.

If Apple made a larger MacBook I'd buy for sure. They don't of course, and those portable screens are no better (on multiple axes).

OTOH I don't care enough to mess with all of this dancing around SIP. Mostly I'd be happy if apps with tabs (e.g. Chrome or iTerm2) had a better official way to integrate into fullscreen by just avoiding the notch like iPhone apps can do.