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Post by AmericanChopper »

danaris wrote: post #601
AmericanChopper wrote: post #442

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State funding of media, regardless of how it’s structured, creates an obvious conflict of interest with editorial freedom. Theoretically it’s possible for a state funded media company to exercise editorial freedom, just like it would be theoretically possible for a climate study funded by ExxonMobile to exercise academic freedom, but not without acknowledging that the conflict of interest exists. Maybe they are a hig…

> State funding of media, regardless of how it’s structured, creates an obvious conflict of interest with editorial freedom. How is this not true of any funding of media? At least with government funding—even if there is outright editorial control—in a democratic country, you as a citizen have the ability to vote on how you think that funding and control should be exercised. Furthermore, it is massively easier to get…

The concern that media companies can have interests that don’t align with journalistic integrity does apply to any media company. Whenever you see Rupert Murdoch’s name being discussed, it’s probably in relation to this topic. However it is harmful in a unique way when the government creates a conflict of interest between editorial independence, and serving the states agenda, due to the way in which that undermines the principle that a democratic society requires freedom of the press.

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Post by mardifoufs »

jacquesm wrote: post #622
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What do you think about Al Jazeera's funding and level of control?

Trustworthy when it is about non-local affairs, hopelessly biased when it is about local affairs. But Al Jazeera doesn't really pretend to be unbiased. Sometimes I'm positively surprised by the quality of their reporting. But them being Qatar based the amount of local news that would affect me is nil. They definitely offer an interesting perspective on the world as seen from the Arabic perspective, meanwhile I'm well…

Sorry, but aljazeera is on the level of RT. That you think otherwise just shows that you are more willing to ignore a biais when it is in your favor.

It has always been known in the arabic world that AJ is a complete puppet of the Qatari royal family (and even staffed by members of the royal family) and it can't be a coincidence that AJ's coverage is almost always a mirror image of qatari foreign policy talking points/positions. It is the equivalent of Saudi Arabia's Al Arabiya, just with more international presence.

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Post by Balgair »

petsfed wrote: post #589
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Elon's playing word games. When the average person talks about State Affiliated Media they're referring to editorial control. As far as I know NPR has always had editorial control and goes to great lengths to maintain neutrality in their writing. They've certainly screwed up in major ways before, but compared to MSNBC, Fox, the NYT, NYP, and CNN I'd say NPR looks like a saint. The irony I see here is that Twitter is…

I was going to mention Radio Free Europe as a really good example of egregious, western state-sponsored media, but then on a lark, I looked up how well regarded they are, bias-wise, and now I don't know what to think.

Hey, just want to say thanks for saying that you changed your mind. It's hard to do on public forums and just in general. It's even harder to say that you don;t know something. Thanks for saying this.

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Post by jacooper »

Jenepas wrote: post #694
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Or more to the point, with how much of twitter is owned by the Saudi government? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/28/saudis-kingdom-hol...

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Wait what?

Terrorist?

Al-jazeera is one of the most renowned news agencies in the world, finally giving an honest voice to the Arab and Islamic world, and they can do this because they don't rely on pleasing advertisers. What do you mean by anti-sentitic?

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Post by xnx »

tapoxi wrote: post #240

Good. It's clear now that Twitter is just an information control mechanism for Musk, and journalists should quit their addiction to it. I think every major news outlet should have their own ActivityPub compatible service, essentially as a modern replacement for RSS.

Email remains undefeated as the original, indestructible, federated social network. It's a shame about the flub with Google Buzz, that could've been the basis for something great.

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Post by warner25 »

photochemsyn wrote: post #831
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For what it's worth, I'll give some perspective here as a career Army officer. I think this is one of those things that sounds like the plausible work of a highly intelligent and effective monolith, which is how conspiracy theorists often seem to view "the government." I think the reality is that "the government" and the US Army is not. It's a sprawling bureaucracy with insanely high turnover and many internal divisi…

Your arguments are cogent, but it's still 'state-affiliated media' - I mean, that also applies to the whole 'media embedding program' that got started in Desert Storm (Gulf War I, or perhaps II if we count the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s). Independent media is not necessarily adversarial to government, but it can't be dependent on government or it turns into nothing but the propaganda arm of the government. E.g. repor…

I think the embedded media program is much more problematic than TWI. Embedded media is at the invitation and discretion of operational public affairs officers and commanders, and those public affairs officers and commanders absolutely have operational "themes" and "messages" that they want to have broadcasted. I just finished Michael Hastings' book The Operators and he describes in-depth the dilemma for a reporter.

But TWI is run by human resources wonks, and mostly for the benefit of the individuals participating. Frankly, it's disparaged by a lot of operational commanders who think those individuals should be serving in the mud somewhere instead of padding their personal resumes. I will concede, however, that there is a certain level of coziness between the Army and the companies that take TWI participants. In the IT community, for example, the Army buys a lot of stuff from Microsoft and Cisco, and Microsoft and Cisco host TWI participants. It makes sense in terms of the Army and those companies wanting to learn more about each other.

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Post by EchoReflection »

twitter and NPR are both liberal echochambers, although NPR has "high credibility".

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-a...

https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-tw...

re: NPR:liberal bias but not egregious

https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/the-other-half-of-america-that... (I realize NY Post leans way right)

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

kylecordes wrote: post #424
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Not at all ragequitting and not degrading to NPR. Staying on the platform tacitly implies NPR accepts the label ...which would be degrading, from their perspective.

I think people should be slower to act. Around the time they left, the label had already been improved to mention funding instead of affiliation. If they could just be a bit chill about it, is quite possible within a month it might have been replaced with a approximate-percentage-funding label, which should not be particularly offensive. Would be really slick to see all media accounts have company ownership / funding…

"people" here refers to elmu,

and the acting refers to his label changes,

right?

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Post by gringe435162 »

dnissley wrote: post #687
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> "hey, middle class: here are \infty reasons to reduce your life quality expectations and for hating yourself if you don't want to play along" Can you give an example of stories with this message?

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Post by Jenepas »

jacooper wrote: post #864
Jenepas wrote: post #694

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Wait what? Terrorist? Al-jazeera is one of the most renowned news agencies in the world, finally giving an honest voice to the Arab and Islamic world, and they can do this because they don't rely on pleasing advertisers. What do you mean by anti-sentitic?

Jesus have you seen Al Jazeera covering how Qatar has been known to be a permissive environment for terror financing, reportedly funding U.S. designated foreign terrorist organizations, such as Hamas, Al qaeda and ISIS, as well as several extremist groups operating in Syria. At least one high-ranking Qatari official provided support to the mastermind of the 9/11. Hamas leader, Khaled Meshaal, also made Doha his headquarters for years while the Qatari's--with the Qatari's Government support and even the Muslim Brotherhood has received significant support from Qatar. Of course, not all of this is supported by the government in Doha. Many individuals and charities in Qatar have been known to raise large sums of money for al-Qaeda, the Nusra front, Hamas, and even ISIS. ( https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-115hhrg26427/html/C... html). Be use I haven't?

Also what about their hard hitting on average of Qatargate and human rights abuses including killings of their LGBTQ dissidents?

Qatar is a state sponsor of terrorism and Al Jazeera is a terrorist network.

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