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Re: Wine 8.5

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the major issue the parent eluded to was a sort of sunk cost fallacy that exists in the spreadsheet ecosystem. Excel is great software, truly, what it enables people to do is impressive (and awful sometimes). But once you have convinced yourself that its industry standard, why look as deeply into alternatives to even figure out if there are better tools? all of them will have quirks, some will certainly be more power…

> But once you have convinced yourself that its industry standard, why look as deeply into alternatives to even figure out if there are better tools? I suppose that's true to an extent. However one of the reasons spreadsheets in general are so popular is their fluid accessibility. Just about anybody can get right to work even in Excel. Once you've gotten started in Excel there's little incentive to leave. That it off…

To be completely fair though, Excel on MacOS is truly not the same software as Excel on Windows; which you will notice very quickly if you're a power-user.

Excel on Linux doesn't exist of course.

Re: Wine 8.5

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Wine (and Proton by extension) is a marvel. Runs most of my windows software with little to no issue, and is more compatible with older games than Windows 10/11 itself!

Many people are still skeptical about wine and proton but in the future it will become the way to play Windows' existing game library. I always say that if you care about games preservation, you need to look at Linux & Proton. Even if a future version of wine/proton introduces some breaking changes, you can always use an older version for a particular game, much more comfortable than messing with Windows XP VMs and w…

I must be missing something, everytime I try to do something I end up wasting a day to get something to work unreliably. Seemingly simple apps that ought to only require the most common dependencies (such as dotnet/ie) are a nightmare to setup for me.

Every other time I try to do something the dependencies fails to download or there are bugs preventing stuff from installing.

What am I missing? Maybe games happens to bundle most they need themselves?

Re: Wine 8.5

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Thanks for all the great work. I hadn't realised Proton was developed by CodeWeavers. Out of curiosity, what is the relationship between Proton and your own product Crossover?

In principle they are somewhat similar: they're both Wine + local patches (either backported from more recent Wine versions or hacks that are not suitable for upstream Wine) + some glue. CrossOver also has a GUI, which Proton doesn't need because the GUI there is Steam and Proton is supposed to be as transparent as possible. And like I said for Proton, it's in our best interest to keep the diff between Wine and Cross…

Thanks for the explanation!
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