It IS using you and if you aren't smart enough to figure that out then you're living in a bubble universe. FB is an awful, monstrous growth on society. I'm sorry if this sounds like an over-reaction, but its pure, undiluted evil. Its reach is just way far too pervasive and the tracking on non-members is just plain illegal as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, people seem to have come to believe that society couldn'…
Facebook Is Using You
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Re: Facebook Is Using You
#42This is what Freedombox is for (also Diaspora). Freedombox is one of the few projects I make time to contribute to. I'm surprised it isn't one of the more popular projects among this community. Anyway, here are some links and background if you aren't familiar with it. From http://freedomboxfoundation.org and http://freedomboxfoundation.org/learn What is FreedomBox? Email and telecommunications that protects privacy a…
You guys need a much simpler "what is freedombox". From the /learn text I only get the impression that it is "Tor in a dedicated box". Where is the social network?
Re: Facebook Is Using You
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
You guys need a much simpler "what is freedombox". From the /learn text I only get the impression that it is "Tor in a dedicated box". Where is the social network?
I gave it my five-second rule, and browsed away feeling totally ignorant of what the platform was about (or even if it was a platform).
Is it a social network? Twitter? Both? Something new? Why should I want to start using it, aside from claims of anonymity?
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#44I don't support the implicit assumption that it is better to err on the side of leniency when it comes to credit provision. Inadequate information was as responsible as lack of oversight for causing the financial crisis. Racial discrimination is also a flawed analogy -- that was a case of using traits that had no bearing on credit risk to calculate a deliberately false appraisal, whereas using data on online activity is far more akin to the practice of requiring bank statements.
Granted, mistakes could very likely be made, but so far the author presents no evidence that using such information is any worse than other means of estimating credit.
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#45It IS using you and if you aren't smart enough to figure that out then you're living in a bubble universe. FB is an awful, monstrous growth on society. I'm sorry if this sounds like an over-reaction, but its pure, undiluted evil. Its reach is just way far too pervasive and the tracking on non-members is just plain illegal as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, people seem to have come to believe that society couldn'…
Craiggybear, why don't you have a PGP public key in your profile? Don't you care about privacy? Wake up!
Re: Facebook Is Using You
#46I wonder if Facebook would ever consider charging people to only to get rid of the ads.
That's more complicated than just using Adblock and is bad PR in the message it sends. If you mean charging to not "use" your data at all, that is an ill-formed concept, given the nature of the business as a sharing service. No friend recs? No featured suggestions? What about using data you give to a friend that they choose to give to facebook -- that there is all your data
Anyway, one way Facebook could do this is by upselling to an account where you have access to a database table or key-value file (or mixed) showing you all the data they have about you (not necessarily use). They could further upsell you on using your data for a particular function or not using your data for a particular function, showing you the documentation to the various functions in question. e.g. an option called "Send to credit agencies" (which you can pay $5 to turn off) when expanded highlights the particular data or sections of the data it sends to which agencies. Indeed, there may even be code it can take the docs from:
/**
* Sends user's Account Data (username, full name, address if provided, etc.) and a credit score estimate determined by @See otherfunc to EquiFax.
*/
function send2equifax($account_data) { }
Or, you know, something simpler like how oAuth permissions are granted. But considering the likely target market for significant data restriction upsells, customers are probably pretty technical and can handle the specifics.Re: Facebook Is Using You
#47It IS using you and if you aren't smart enough to figure that out then you're living in a bubble universe. FB is an awful, monstrous growth on society. I'm sorry if this sounds like an over-reaction, but its pure, undiluted evil. Its reach is just way far too pervasive and the tracking on non-members is just plain illegal as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, people seem to have come to believe that society couldn'…
>FB is an awful, monstrous growth on society. I can think of many things I'd apply that label to (Such as DHS, the republican party, ACTA), but applying that to a service that people voluntarily sign up and use is a bit absurd, don't you think? This just in: Advertising companies track people. Film at 11. It's possible to completely avoid facebook and their tracking with the most minimal of effort. I wonder when we'r…
Don't you get that?
I find this kind of response unfathomable.
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#48It IS using you and if you aren't smart enough to figure that out then you're living in a bubble universe. FB is an awful, monstrous growth on society. I'm sorry if this sounds like an over-reaction, but its pure, undiluted evil. Its reach is just way far too pervasive and the tracking on non-members is just plain illegal as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, people seem to have come to believe that society couldn'…
People reserve that type of speech for concentration camps or mass graves, not a social networking site where you can poke your friends. Please read up on some history and get some perspective
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Craiggybear, why don't you have a PGP public key in your profile? Don't you care about privacy? Wake up!
I don't have/want a profile. Isn't that good enough?
Re: Facebook Is Using You
#50I think this is a terrible headline that masks an interesting philosophical debate. Especially at this community, we feel we intuitively understand that we get the convenience and social value from Facebook for $0, and we pay in our personal data they use to serve up advertisements. That to me is hardly newsworthy and a relatively uninteresting piece. But- there is an interesting question in what is an appropriate us…
We pay in our personal data (period).
They are using it for advertisements now, but they can use it for anything they can legally get away with.