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Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Cold War Kid here. I grew up in a neighborhood where a significant faction of the fathers were engineers working for a major defense contractor. The Tomahawk Cruise Missile, the Aegis Anti-Missile System, the Abrams Night Vision system - those are just a few of the projects our dads were working on. Everyone in the community, us kids included, considered this to be serious and vital work for defending the US from the…

> Everyone in the community, us kids included, considered this to be serious and vital work for defending the US from the USSR Yes, because the US had one of the most effective propaganda machines of all times. You know, participants of a war always believe their side is right and they’re fighting the good fight. Otherwise they wouldn’t do it. And while you’re certainly right that Putin shouldn’t be considered harmle…

I look at this the same way when people claim Democrats and Republicans are equally bad. They're not. Not even close. Republicans are far, far, far worse. Does that mean Democrats are perfect? Nope, they're not. Does that mean every single Republican is bad? Nope, some are truly great people. Seriously.

That's how I see the United States and the old USSR, modern Russia and to a lesser extent, China (I tend to view China much more favorably than Russia). Does that mean the U.S. is perfect? Nope, we're not. Sometimes we're wrong and disastrously so. Does that mean every Russian is bad? Nope, I've worked alongside many awesome Russians over the decades. Some were even in the Russian Army at the same time I was in the Marine Corps and we've laughed that here we are now in a bar having a beer together whereas a few years before we would have been on a battlefield trying to kill one another.

In that regard I see Putin and Trump very similarly. Putin has reminded us that Russia hasn't advanced as much as we'd thought, and Trump showed us that our lesser selves were always there under the surface brewing and waiting for a monster such as him to release our demons and let them run amok. They're old-school people from whom the reigns of power should be taken away.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/us/politics/afghanistan-d... Anyone that gets into defense because of this thread, remember that the technologies you develop will be used to slaughter the innocent.

Dude, you don't need high tech to slaughter the innocent, any fool can do that. What gold-plated weapons systems do is credibly deter a Chinese landing force from showing up in Taipei, or help the Ukranians achieve the 5+ K/D ratios they need to survive as an independent nation. I'd be happier to know that my code would let a shaped charge target a J20 cockpit in the unlikely event of Really Bad Decision Making, than…

> But ethics? Compared to FAANG? I wouldn't worry about that.

Caught myself clicking upvote 100500 times. Index finger hurts

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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If it's brutal for a person with 15+ years of experience, I don't even want to imagine what it's like joining the job market with 0 years of experience now.

0 years of experience is definitely tough, but for mid level devs (3-6 yrs) it may actually be easier than super seniors, because yes, overqualification... Me personally I just started a job at a Canadian company after low key looking and applying to various companies for the past couple of months. And I definitely got a lot of ghosting/generic rejections but definitely less than 95%. I'm a good 3-5yr, mid-level dev,…

This might be one of those times to remove some experiences from your history, push forward your graduation date, and settle for a “normal” senior position (assuming all else fails)

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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this sounds great, but I'd be especially interested if there was a way to use the service that didn't involve a browser extension

the browser extension is just where i started. a gmail add-on that will be released in the nearish future. would you mind sharing the issue or concern about using a browser extension?

They have the ability to exfiltrate private information. Even if you as an honest person wouldn't do such a thing, you might sell the IP to someone who would, or someone who would accept money to include a script that does that.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Yeah, I’m about to hit 6 months of looking with a few final round interviews but no hire. It’s very discouraging. Especially when I see headlines talking about how the overall job market is hot.

> "overall job market is hot" isn't it the opposite?. All I see is doom and gloom in the news.

It’s very hot outside of white collar professions

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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> FAANG experience Probably the reason. Most companies need people with experience in more than just one layer of a stack. Hard times for those who cant own a full stack, unfortunately.

Would you reconsider the stereotyping if I told you I’m a generalist who has worked up and down many kinds of stacks? It’s proving hard to sell generalist-ness to recruiters this round. They often lock on to the most recent specific domain I worked in. If anything, they seem to be filtering for people with very specific experience in a specific layer of a specific stacks - because they are getting so many application…

I think it has always been hard to prove generalist-ness to recruiters. I had one recruiter literally wanted react Vx.y.z. Ok I lie. She did not care about minor versions. I have huge respect for recruiters for sourcing but being the front-line for judging is ridiculous. It shows how much respect HMs have for candidates!

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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From what I have heard from colleagues there are so many applications coming in for open job postings the hiring managers are applying generic filters just to make the numbers manageable. Using filters like location, so even if you have 15 years exp with perfect matching skillset your resume may still not even be viewed by human eyes because you are located > 20 miles from the office etc... I think the market is just saturated/brutal right now.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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ChatGPT can regurgitate existing answers, it is very bad at programming when met with novel questions. See how far it can go in AdventOfCode.

Ask it to reason step by step, and nudge it the right way. It's amazing.

Do you mean ... program it?

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Why is that a “more balanced take?”

If the alternative is a world where these weapons systems don't exist? I’m afraid that is a fantasy world which would quickly be ceded to the bigger stick. So consideration of military force requires balance, reverence, and respect. Posting something like “btw if you work in defense you’re a baby killer” is more insult than reasoned debate.

"Defense" weapons being used to slaughter innocent people, including children (you used the phrase "baby killer" first), is well documented fact.

It's not insult if it's verifiably true, is it?

There are plenty of people that are okay with their work being used to kill babies. They can work defense jobs. I just wanted to provide a little reality check for downtrodden devs considering defense work for the first time, because I'm sure a lot of them in fact are not okay with their work being used to kill babies.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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On the contrary… I’m not seeing any evidence of this. If anything, salaries are going up.

What's your vantage point though? Are you a "normal" senior seeing salaries going up from $175k and GP is a FAANG seeing salaries going down from $400k? note: I don't have data points for either, I'm genuinely curious

From the hiring side.
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