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Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

This is a very German thing. I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence. Also the obligation to own an ID card is a very foreign concept in most other countries. I had that issue with German companies before, especially those who rarely deal with international customers. For example in Austria only a few people own an ID card (most people have a passport, but not everyone). So…

Is the ID requirement a leftover from the Nazi era? I don't suppose Germany ever issued a blanket repeal of all the laws passed during that error.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity. The required either PayPal or passport. I have no PayPal account, and their 3rd party verification system only allows passport from your country of residence (signup requires providing a contact address and they pre fill using t…

They probably suffer from a lot of sign ups with fake IDs and with criminal intent. So I get that they are rather strict. Another thing to consider: cloud providers are not very interested in individuals as customers. They usually want companies as customers, that also buy more than a 3$ vserver. A solution for this problem could be a sign-up fee (50 or 100$), to pay for an extended manual vetting of customers, that…

> Another thing to consider: cloud providers are not very interested in individuals as customers

A key theme in the "cloud vs data center" story is that most public cloud providers (AWS, etc...) were really easy to sign up, requiring a CC and nothing else.

Meanwhile, hardware vendors wouldn't even talk to you as an individual / small business.

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I’m currently setting up infrastructure for a startup and it’s been very interesting how the threat model of data loss and disaster recovery is no longer hardware failure: it’s account lock out. I’ve got streaming replication of my core data going from one cloud company to other company as that way if one has some antifraud system go rogue on me I still have access. As somebody who used to spend a lot of time thinkin…

That's a very perceptive comment. It happens again and again and it's much harder to control for that, as compared to say making sure you are running in different amazon availability zones or something. If you wanted to destroy someone's service, probably getting them banned like you describe could even be easier than a DOS now. I worry about the day that google kills my gmail account for some random and never to be…

Well, this site is a big reason I got the insight to focus on account redundancy over disk redundancy. Lots of posts over the years of people locked out from all the big clouds in a panic trying to see if an employee will see their cry for help on HN.

I do NOT want to be making that post!

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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> Never figured out how to use Hertzner. Wanted to try since they get such a good reputation on here, but they banned my account when their system presented no way for me to verify my identity. Is this something new? I (Norwegian) have been using Hetzner for 10+ years, and never had a problem, and never had to attest my identity. CurrentlyI have a four servers running there. The last one was set up approx. a year ago…

It's definitely not new, they required an id 20 years ago. (From EU citizens, so it's not about the country either).

So how do you explain that I never have had to show an ID?

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It's definitely not new, they required an id 20 years ago. (From EU citizens, so it's not about the country either).

So how do you explain that I never have had to show an ID?

Just because Hetzner has had processes that can involve ID checks if deemed necessary for a long time doesn't mean that they check ID for everyone.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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I don't understand the hype around ARM64 in the server space. Is this just due to all the marketing from Apple around their proprietary M processors leaking into the enterprise market? The latest Xeon and EPYC offerings are very performance competitive, I doubt we need to overhaul and entire processor ISA paradigm for continued improvements.

The hype is because Intel and AMD have an enforced duopoly of x86, because only they own the licenses to x86-64 and you'll take it from their cold dead hands. So, if you want to compete, you'll have to go ARM. Amazon graviton and Apples M series have only made it more appealing. The main reason to switch is cost.

They own the licenses to SSE3/SSE4/AVX. For now.

Currently anyone can make an x86-64 processor.

Re: Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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post #125

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A lot of people confuse the passport (Pass) with the national identity card (Personalausweis). There's no place of residence stated on the German passport, but it is part of the Personalausweis. Since German citizens by law are required to own a Personalausweis (there's no mandate to carry it around, just having it somewhere in a drawer suffices), practically all businesses in Germany do rely on the Personalausweis t…

This is a very German thing. I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence. Also the obligation to own an ID card is a very foreign concept in most other countries. I had that issue with German companies before, especially those who rarely deal with international customers. For example in Austria only a few people own an ID card (most people have a passport, but not everyone). So…

We have address printed on ID cards here in Italy, just as an extra data point in addition to the other people who have replied already.

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So how do you explain that I never have had to show an ID?

Just because Hetzner has had processes that can involve ID checks if deemed necessary for a long time doesn't mean that they check ID for everyone.

I understand that. I'm trying to figure out why I'm - and several others - are "special."

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Exactly. My main infrastructure is on Hetzner, but I have a live replication via Wireguard at another hoster in Austria. With less resources there, but for accessibility "in the case of".

I’m also thinking about buying a second hand server and racking it in a colocation joint just so I can physically get the disk. The client data I have is super important, and there is some level of comfort you only get from bare metal.

I would go further and have a small server/NAS running locally in an office. The best backup is one you sit on the top off.
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