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NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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How on earth can anyone say "falsely labeled"? NPR does get money from the federal government, that is an undisputable fact. How are they not "state-affilated"? I don't care how small a % of the budget is money from the government. The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated.

with that logic, wouldn't corporations who take subsidies and tax credits be considered "state-affiliated"?

just slap that label on every single food product.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#272

Here's what NPR's own website says about their federal funding: "Federal funding is essential to public radio's service to the American public and its continuation is critical for both stations and program producers, including NPR." "Public radio stations receive annual grants directly from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB)" "The loss of federal funding would undermine the stations' ability to pay NPR for…

There is also this part that you did not quote:

>On average, less than 1% of NPR's annual operating budget comes in the form of grants from CPB and federal agencies and departments.

It is irrelevant to most of the controversy, however. The original Twitter label declared that NPR did not have editorial independence from the government.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#273

How on earth can anyone say "falsely labeled"? NPR does get money from the federal government, that is an undisputable fact. How are they not "state-affilated"? I don't care how small a % of the budget is money from the government. The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated.

> The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated.

Let's leave out the Elno companies that take gov money hand over fist, why is this label not applied to every company that gets tax benefits, took out govt loans?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In their rebuttal [0] to this, they cited a statement from the White House Press Secretary: > When asked about Twitter's decision during the White House's daily briefing, press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre declined to address Twitter's content rules specifically. But she also defended NPR's journalism. > "There is no doubt of the independence of NPR journalists," Jean-Pierre said. "If you've ever been on the receivin…

How ironic that NPR uses the state's talking points to argue they're not affiliated with the state.

"yet you participate in society. curious!"

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#276

So much of this article reads like an op-ed that I can't take it seriously. Edit: for the downvoters, some excerpts: > The BBC exchange showed Musk as alternately conciliatory and erratic. According to whom? > He also said that he's sleeping on a couch at work, that he followed through on his promise to purchase Twitter only because a judge forced him to, and that he should stop tweeting after 3 a.m. this is a lot to…

If you want "objective" just watch the BBC interview?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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> It receives less than 1 percent Why do they keep saying they receive almost nothing, yet at the same time say government funding is essential to their operation?

Because every penny counts. What business would turn around and say : "We don't need that 1%, you can have it back". It's state affiliated. Like Tesla. Like any company who received covid relief. Tax breaks etc. Less than 1 percentage is simply not influential. It's disingenuous to say it's owned by the government.

It depends on the perception one has of the US govt. If one considers them benign and aligns with their policy, 1% seems is not a big deal. If one doesn't, even 1% funding is considered influence. Imagine one politician you don't like receiving 1% from the Russian or North Korean government, or say from the Meta corp, I wouldn't have a problem calling out them as being "funded" or even "influenced".

> What business would turn around and say : "We don't need that 1%, you can have it back".

The one which would try to claim independence and non-influence from said entity?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#278
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should consider the context of using that label on Twitter, not just the label name itself. State-affiliated label on Twitter means something as "biased", it's not used on its pure definition in a vacuum. That's the problem.

NPR is biased though. Extremely so.

Not in any way that doesn't label literally everything anyone says as biased. When was the last time you actually listened to one of their news broadcasts? They are annoyingly neutral both sidesing issues where one side is clearly insane and doesn't represent anyone's real views except the one guy who found a megaphone. If there's a bill in the statehouse recognizing puppies as cute they'll find the one guy who's anti-dog and willing to die on that hill.

Extremely biased is Jon Stewart, a person who does a news broadcast with the express purpose to take a stance and say something.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#279

How on earth can anyone say "falsely labeled"? NPR does get money from the federal government, that is an undisputable fact. How are they not "state-affilated"? I don't care how small a % of the budget is money from the government. The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated.

> The fact they take any money at all from the gov makes them sate-affilated. In that case, very nearly every business (including mom and pop shops) is "state affiliated" and one has to ask why NPR is being singled out for this.

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

#280

I wonder if this will have any domino effect, right now the only thing holding Twitter together is its network effects. According to the article on NPR's site[0], they have 8.7 million followers and run 52 different accounts so Twitter is losing a pretty important partner. Also, no mention of Mastodon in this announcement. It sounds like they're just going to use Facebook for the time being. 0: https://www.npr.org/20…

> no mention of Mastodon in this announcement Mastodon blew its moment. It could have eaten Twitter’s lunch. But onboarding—specifically, choosing a server—was too tedious for non-niche adoption.

Everyone likes to blame the server interface, but honestly that's not so bad and I think most people get over it.

Mastodon's real problem in my opinion is that its primary audience today doesn't actually want anyone new to join - it's VERY toxic for newcomers who don't fit a specific mold. It's a shame, cause we really do need something new.

I'm hoping some of the new decentralized ones take off.

Edit: I think the comment about this being survivor bias is fair, but I still believe the community itself is a bigger hurdle for Mastodon than the signup flow

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