While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages
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#143While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
I don't think Google would want the PR hit for doing such things. I suspect that they even have hang-ups about training their general-purpose AIs on your private data, because they might accidentally leak some of it. A lot of their business exists because people trust them to keep your data safe (even from their internal teams), and they would lose a lot of business if anyone discovered otherwise. I think it will be…
Google gets to wash its hands of the data responsibility, but all the same negative issues for the user is still there.
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#144I was talking to a non-tech friend about all the AI advancements lately and when she asked me what I thought the biggest risk was I said it's exactly what we all just experienced the past 3 years and realized is awful for human - prolonged social isolation. My biggest worry is that AI generated art (be it photos, music, code, etc.) and AI assistants will become so good we won't need other humans to get our social fix…
It's funny that the things we always understood as being the "most human" activities are actually the first ones being gobbled up by AI. Once media consumption becomes almost entirely AI created (music, TV, news, and your social media feeds), what happens to shared cultural experiences, and how does that impact human connection and health?
There's also some new risks to society. What if, similar to Roko's basilisk, people who fear losing their jobs to AI try and force an end to AI research by helping it become sentient/self-hosted? Would we try and stop it, ban research, or is AI a train you truly cannot stop at this point?
Lots of interesting questions at least, but lots of scary possible answers.
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#145Re: Replacing my best friends with an LLM trained on 500k group chat messages
#146While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
Some of us have been planning for this situation for years by having our recorded digital footprint have no relation to our in person personality. At best they could simulate what they think we are like in person.
A side benefit of all this is that it gives otherwise nice people an excuse to be a complete jerk online.
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#147While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
They kinda did - that's what GMail/Chat/Docs autosuggest does. You've got canned replies to e-mail, editors that complete your sentences, etc.
It works okay for simple stuff - completing a single sentence or responding "OK, sounds good" to an e-mail that you already agree with. It doesn't work all that well for long-form writing, unless that long-form writing is basically just bullshit that covers up "OK, sounds good". (There's a joke within Google now that the future of e-mail is "OK, sounds good" -> AI bullshit generator -> "Most esteemed colleagues, we have organized a committee to conduct a study on the merits of XYZ and have developed the following conclusions [2 pages follow]" -> AI bullshit summarizer -> "OK, sounds good".)
This is a pretty good summary of the state of LLMs right now. They're very good at generating a lot of verbiage in areas where the information content of the message is low but social conventions demand a lot of verbiage (I've heard of them used to good effect for recommendation letters, for example). They're pretty bad at collecting & synthesizing large amount of highly-precise factual information, because they hallucinate facts that aren't there and often misunderstand the context of facts.
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#148While I love all these stories of turning your friends and loved ones into chat bots so you can talk to them forever, my brain immediately took a much darker turn because of course it did. How many emails, text messages, hangouts/gchat messages, etc, does Google have of you right now? And as part of their agreement, they can do pretty much whatever they like with those, can't they? Could Google, or any other company…
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#149This is awesome, clear and concise explanation. I was talking to my wife and debating whether I should build a model of each of us and store it somewhere in case something tragic happens to either of us. But we decided not to because something about it felt wrong but maybe I’ll make it just in case I regret not doing later on.
I really don't understand this sort of thing at all. Even a hypothetical distant future AI that had a human level of sentience and intelligence and could perfectly emulate you in every way still would not be you (even if it could hypothetically be indistinguishable from you in communication), and it's especially odd now with the crude simulacrum it would provide. If you're gone, you're gone. Some model of your brain…
It's already here mate. GPT-4 is human level intelligence however you'd wish to evaluate.
I agree a model of your brain is not strictly speaking you. But it might be close for what someone might want.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever we get to see behind the corporate veil, we often find companies don't abide by laws. How many companies failed this year hiding nefarious activities? Also, what types of behavior did we get a glimpse of from the Twitter Files? Aren't there always constant lawsuits about bad behavior of companies especially around privacy? So yes, we are talking about the same behavior existing, but the concern is that they…
> Also, what types of behavior did we get a glimpse of from the Twitter Files? Can you actually explain the types of bad behavior? The rhetorical question about The Twitter Files somehow being a groundbreaking expose of bad behavior doesn't really match anything I've seen. Most of what was cited was essentially a social media company trying to enforce their rules. Might want to read up on the latest developments ther…
I agree that Musk has not honored his original intent. He has already broken in many ways the transparency pledge and free speech principles.
Yet, these were already broken under previous ownership. We simply see that as continuing.