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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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You should consider the context of using that label on Twitter, not just the label name itself. State-affiliated label on Twitter means something as "biased", it's not used on its pure definition in a vacuum. That's the problem.

NPR is biased though. Extremely so.

Yes, everything and everyone is, because they are humans.

But it doesn't matter; the government does not have any editorial control over NPR. That's what "state affiliated" means.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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I wonder if this will have any domino effect, right now the only thing holding Twitter together is its network effects. According to the article on NPR's site[0], they have 8.7 million followers and run 52 different accounts so Twitter is losing a pretty important partner. Also, no mention of Mastodon in this announcement. It sounds like they're just going to use Facebook for the time being. 0: https://www.npr.org/20…

I think the Dominoes have been falling for a while. I mostly quit the bird in November. I pop over once or twice a week these days to see what's happening and the degradation of content is very apparent. It may be because of departures or it may be because his constant weaponizing, sorry monetizing, of the algorithm but it's a lot quieter. A lot of the people I liked to follow from our industry are gone. It's a stark contrast to what the app was even a year ago. All while their CEO rebrands them as Titter and has people repaint signs.

The most recent gaff of exposing people "private" circles to the main feed (including private nudes) is probably going to create a new slew of legal issues.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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> citing the social media platform's decision to label NPR "state-affiliated media," the same term it uses for propaganda outlets in Russia, China and other autocratic countries. it's indeed a shame they do it for chinese and russian companies, but not the BBC or western european broadcasters... hell, not even Radio Free Europe is marked as "state-affiliated media". If not them, who?

Twitter themselves had a guide that explained why NPR and BBC were not labelled as such, which has been revised since, but is still archived. "State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy." https://web.archive.org/web/20230404115255/https:/help.twitt...

Editorial independence in action: https://www.usagm.gov/who-we-are/management-team/john-lansin...

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Well, there is an interesting history here. E.g. in 2000 NPR (and CNN) allowed the US Army's Psychological Operations division to place military members in the newsroom as interns as part of a media training program: https://fair.org/home/psyops-in-the-newsroom/ > "PSYOPS is a division of the U.S. Army mandated to “develop and disseminate propaganda designed to lower the morale” of “enemy forces,” and to “build suppo…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/apr/12/julianborger "Cable Network News (CNN) and National Public Radio, (NPR) denied that the "psy-ops" officers influenced news coverage and said the internships had been stopped as soon as senior managers found out . For its part, the army said the programme was only intended to give young army media specialists some experience of how the news industry functioned." That...see…

The point they’re making is the point they’re making. Take it exactly for what it is. If the same thing was reported to have happened In Russia, it wouldn’t be terribly controversial to label the media outlet “state-sponsored”.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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I wonder if this will have any domino effect, right now the only thing holding Twitter together is its network effects. According to the article on NPR's site[0], they have 8.7 million followers and run 52 different accounts so Twitter is losing a pretty important partner. Also, no mention of Mastodon in this announcement. It sounds like they're just going to use Facebook for the time being. 0: https://www.npr.org/20…

I am viewing Twitter more than before because I am attracted to the open speech where political banning is no longer occurring. I do not know all who have been blocked under Musk but it feels more open.

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Tesla and SpaceX combined have obtained $5 billion in subsidies from the US government. NPR’s budget subsidy is less than one percent (~$3M). The label is not accurate, it’s a weapon of childish behavior.

They have not. You are relying on a false headline that calls things like contracts, loans, zev credits from other automaters as ' government subsidies', which is obviously incorrect.

Tesla is only just now receiving subsidies to produce batteries from the IRA that was passed last year, but previously had received no subsidies from the federal government

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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> It receives less than 1 percent Why do they keep saying they receive almost nothing, yet at the same time say government funding is essential to their operation?

Disconnect between direct federal funding and aggregate funding from a variety of public institutions or grants from publicly funded NGOs at national/state/local levels I imagine.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Many countries have publicly funded/editorially independent broadcasters. Of the below, none seem to be listed as "state affiliated": https://twitter.com/bbc https://twitter.com/deutschewelle https://twitter.com/srf https://twitter.com/radiofrance https://twitter.com/CBCNews

They put it for BBC now. And that's good.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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I think you misunderstand. You can't join the EU servers unless you're an elected official. You can make your own server, or join another one, but not the ones run by the EU. The beauty of the decentralized platform is that neither Brussels bureaucrats or billionaires get to decide what you do. I want the government of Denmark to run a similar server for our elected officials. That way Danish politicians get to decid…

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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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post #100

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It disregards editorial control, which was part of how Twitter used to decide this. https://web.archive.org/web/20230404115255/https:/help.twitt... "State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy."

Except this is a pure marketing talk, ie this phrase literally doesn't mean anything quantifiable. Unless you're trying to argue that NPR's CEO, which came directly from US government propaganda agency, maintains "editorial independence" in some magic, American-specific way.

I think it's funny that all the Americans/Russians commenting here seem to believe there are only two public broadcasters in the world: RT, and NPR. And that Twitter was merely being unfair by not labeling NPR as "state affiliated." ;)

In fact, as I noted elsewhere in this thread, there are many (dozens?) of other public broadcasters around the world, most of which are not labeled as "state affiliated"--apparently in keeping with Twitter's (IMO reasonable) distinction between "state controlled" and "state funded/editorially independent."

Musk's eye of Sauron fell upon NPR--and only NPR, not Deutsche Welle or Radio France or CBC or BBC or any of the other respected independent public broadcasters--because he is, in the American sense, a right-wing nutjob with an ax to grind.

That Twitter would bend their principles--in either direction--to American domestic politics in such a transparent way should give users, especially those who are not interested in American culture wars, pause.

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