Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Post by j4nek » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC

Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers
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Post by ericls » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:25 PM UTC

Hope they'll roll out the dedicated-cores plans for these.

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Post by solalf » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:30 PM UTC

Could somebody walk me through why ARM based servers are so inexpensive compared to their x86 counterparts? Is performance much lower? 16 cores & 32gb of RAM for less than 25 euros seems like a bargain.

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Post by nidnogg » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC

solalf wrote: post #3

Could somebody walk me through why ARM based servers are so inexpensive compared to their x86 counterparts? Is performance much lower? 16 cores & 32gb of RAM for less than 25 euros seems like a bargain.

Here's hoping it's not just an early adopter promo

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Post by sleepychu » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:32 PM UTC

solalf wrote: post #3

Could somebody walk me through why ARM based servers are so inexpensive compared to their x86 counterparts? Is performance much lower? 16 cores & 32gb of RAM for less than 25 euros seems like a bargain.

Perhaps operating costs? — https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/linux/ARM-vs-x86#arm-vs-x86...

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Post by brucethemoose2 » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

Theres a perception that the ARM Altra per-thread performance is really bad.

But according to my Minecraft benchmarks in Oracle's instances, its better than old Skylake cloud instances... by how much is hard to say since other tenants generate so much variation, but there are proper reviews of the whole SoC floating around out there.

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Post by zamalek » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:37 PM UTC

solalf wrote: post #3

Could somebody walk me through why ARM based servers are so inexpensive compared to their x86 counterparts? Is performance much lower? 16 cores & 32gb of RAM for less than 25 euros seems like a bargain.

Power delivery and cooling are not cheap at datacenter levels.

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Post by INeedMoreRam » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:37 PM UTC

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Post by mnau » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:40 PM UTC

solalf wrote: post #3

Could somebody walk me through why ARM based servers are so inexpensive compared to their x86 counterparts? Is performance much lower? 16 cores & 32gb of RAM for less than 25 euros seems like a bargain.

Maybe competition? x86 has only 2 competitors left. ARM has more diverse ecosystem of competitors and the environments ha been different.

ARM design had to be adjusted/developed for a cell phones often cost 10% of a normal computers (main use of x86). I can buy a cell phone a display, battery, memory and ARM cpu for $100 total (no idea how much ARM chip alone cost). The phone will have a semi-acceptable performance.

Even cheapest x86 CPU with emi acceptable performance probably cost more than $100 and cheapest x86 cpu more than $50.

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Post by re-thc » Wed, Apr 12, 2023, 2:41 PM UTC

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #6

Theres a perception that the ARM Altra per-thread performance is really bad. But according to my Minecraft benchmarks in Oracle's instances, its better than old Skylake cloud instances... by how much is hard to say since other tenants generate so much variation, but there are proper reviews of the whole SoC floating around out there.

Old Skylake cloud instances is "really bad" in the current day compared to Rome/Milan/Genoa, Sapphire Rapids and Graviton 3 for example.

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