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Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is "National Car Rental" state-affiliated? "National Geographic"? Do you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy, too?

Keyword is "Public", not "National"

Someone better tell Public Storage about this!

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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I'm Danish and I may have a different take on this than many Americans, but I'm frankly a little appalled that our democratic institutions are still renting their digital homes on the turf of tech giants. The EU set a good example when Elon musk bought Twitter and the EU created their first Mastodon servers, both for it's organizations and it's elected officials, and everyone should frankly follow suit. We shouldn't accept that a billionaire gets to dictate the online content of our democratic institutions, and, especially not when there are easily available alternatives where you can take back the governance. At least that is my opinion on the matter and I hope Elon manages to make this happen by getting people to quit Twitter.

I'm not sure how it is around the world, because I mostly follow our local news on these topics, but it's been sort of silly to watch the Danish debate about TikTok. We've banned public officials from having it on their phones, but we've not banned Twitter, Facebook or any of the other Social Medias that do the exact same things TikTok does. Yes, we're allied with the US, but it's still sort of silly isn't it?. If the NPR is a state affiliated media because it gets public funding, then our primary media institution Danmarks Radio should frankly get the same label since it gets all of it's funding from the public. But why on earth wouldn't our primary media institution not run their own Mastodon server, so they can govern and moderate their own public image instead of being on Twitter? Sure they might lose followers, but we don't pay them public money to be popular on an American Social Media, do we?

Heh. I personally think that what I've said here applies to everyone, every institution and organisation but I can see why it's different for American organisations to be on an American Social Network, but really, isn't it time we took ownership of our online lives back?

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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They were labeled as "state-affiliated media" and after a retraction, Twitter referred to them as "government-funded" On March 20th, NPR listed this retraction on their website "An earlier version of this story mistakenly said Musk bought Twitter for $44 million. In fact, he paid $44 billion." [1] Twitter can't make mistakes, but NPR makes dozens of them daily. Should we rage quit NPR everytime they issue a retractio…

It wasn't a mistake, it was intentional. Musk verified this, and even if we disregard his ramblings, they intentionally removed NPR as an example of who wouldn't be marked as state-affiliated from their description of how the label is applied, which gives the game away.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230404115255/https:/help.twitt...

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ragequitting is also degrading to NPR.

Not at all ragequitting and not degrading to NPR. Staying on the platform tacitly implies NPR accepts the label ...which would be degrading, from their perspective.

If NPR doesn’t wish to accept the label it should refuse government funding.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Well, there is an interesting history here. E.g. in 2000 NPR (and CNN) allowed the US Army's Psychological Operations division to place military members in the newsroom as interns as part of a media training program: https://fair.org/home/psyops-in-the-newsroom/ > "PSYOPS is a division of the U.S. Army mandated to “develop and disseminate propaganda designed to lower the morale” of “enemy forces,” and to “build suppo…

Please, in Soviet Russia interns tell you what to do. (I'm sorry, that was a terrible Yakov Smirnoff reference, I apologize to him and to anyone reading this.)

Anyway, in the USA military interns at NPR are learning how to run a radio station or whatever. I mean, if the military tried to tell NPR what to say there would be howls from coast to coast.

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And now I have read the article you linked to, and it does sound like there may have been some influence from OPD to NPR. As I would expect, when this came to light, there was howling from coast to coast, and it got shut down right quick. In fact, the article says the whole OPD was shut down. Good. (WTF people?)

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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But he spoke the truth

In the BBC's case, he's acknowledge it's not accurate. NPR's case is similar (and even less "state affiliated" than they are). https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65248196 > Mr Musk said Twitter was adjusting the label for the BBC to "publicly-funded". "We're trying to be accurate," he said. If NPR is state affiliated because of 1% government funding, SpaceX should get the tag.

Corporation for Public Broadcasting is entirely government funded, and it funds NPR.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finance... > Public radio stations receive annual grants directly from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) that make up an important part of a diverse revenue mix that includes listener support, corporate sponsorship and grants. Stations, in turn, draw on this mix of public and privately sourced revenue to pay NPR and other public radio producers for thei…

The numbers I am last aware of, while ten years old now, were that Federal funding was roughly 10% of their operating budget, with 90% coming from other sources. This came more or less directly from our NPR station in DC as they talked about fund raising in their many, many drives. And this wasn't for the station itself, I believe this was for NPR, since they then went on to talk about how many stations, mostly in ru…

> The numbers I am last aware of, while ten years old now, were that Federal funding was roughly 10% of their operating budget, with 90% coming from other sources.

If that's accurate, then I'd love for NPR to explain the order of magnitude gap between their claim of 1% and that 10% figure. That's a huge difference.

to upon_drumhead: Federal funding laundered through sub-orgs that share the same "NPR" branding is still federal funding.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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I listen to NPR station in the car. Anecdotally, very little of the content is true journalism; much of it is effectively op-ed. That's not necessarily a bad thing, provived you understand what you're consuming.

The state-funded tag is a bit much. But to claim NPR is a pure journalism play isn't accurate either.

Re: NPR quits Twitter after being labeled as 'state-affiliated media'

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> citing the social media platform's decision to label NPR "state-affiliated media," the same term it uses for propaganda outlets in Russia, China and other autocratic countries. it's indeed a shame they do it for chinese and russian companies, but not the BBC or western european broadcasters... hell, not even Radio Free Europe is marked as "state-affiliated media". If not them, who?

Twitter themselves had a guide that explained why NPR and BBC were not labelled as such, which has been revised since, but is still archived.

"State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy."

https://web.archive.org/web/20230404115255/https:/help.twitt...

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