A program called Camfrog did the exact same thing. Lifetime codes got flipped into a new subscription system.
Realistically, this is fraud.
ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license
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#62The OP states “the reason I tell all my CTO coachees they need everything in writing from their boss in their contract, a new boss will probably only honor what is written down, not spoken promises.” However, he seems to have ignored his own advice and not understood the ManyCam EULA. “… This license is in effect until one of the parties terminates the license. You may terminate the license by no longer using the Man…
While the contract would mean they have the right to terminate the "lifetime license", it would also mean that the phrasing "lifetime license" is false advertising isn't it?
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#63Isn't this just breach of contract, plain and simple? Change of ownership should have little to do with it.
I imagine this is one of those extremely common situations where the law doesn’t matter. Even if you are entitled to some compensation, how are you going to get it? The only recourse is taking them to court which will end up costing your time, money, and sanity.
I think it could be an easyish case for small claims. Bought software at X date, used it for Y years, expected to use it for a further Z years in professional career, and now you can only use it for 2 further years, instead of Z. Get atleast a refund for the years that you won't be able to use.
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#64Isn't this just breach of contract, plain and simple? Change of ownership should have little to do with it.
I imagine this is one of those extremely common situations where the law doesn’t matter. Even if you are entitled to some compensation, how are you going to get it? The only recourse is taking them to court which will end up costing your time, money, and sanity.
I mean if there are a large enough group of users with that lifetime license a class-action might be worthwhile for an enterprising law firm.
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#65I just want to state outright that OP was wronged, and I side with them. That being said; I dislike both full subscription (i.e. breaks on expiration) and lifetime licenses. Subscriptions are too expensive for software that rarely gets major investment and lifetime licenses are dishonest (e.g. company cannot work for free, so their funded is based on unlimited growth, which isn't realistic for most). My current favor…
Isn't pay per usage viable for value via web or does that fall under subscription? I tend to think of subscription as a monthly/annual payment for access.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Visicom is the new owner, right? So that's a new policy, as in not the one he agreed to when he signed up for a lifetime license.
No, Visicom is the old owner, as per the quote in the original post: “ManyCam is now under new ownership. […] Visicom Media stands by the Lifetime customers and will continue to support them by arranging with the new owner for a total of two years of free subscription."
I misread. But then I got all these upvotes for nothing.
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#67I just want to state outright that OP was wronged, and I side with them. That being said; I dislike both full subscription (i.e. breaks on expiration) and lifetime licenses. Subscriptions are too expensive for software that rarely gets major investment and lifetime licenses are dishonest (e.g. company cannot work for free, so their funded is based on unlimited growth, which isn't realistic for most). My current favor…
that's how the audible ripper I use works. I buy 1 version and get updates for a year and then i'm stuck at that specific version
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#68It's crazy how many people in this thread just accept this as normal and fine. Is the rule of law completely dead?
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#69The problem with such betrayal is, that companies names are all but smoke and mirrors by now. The reputational damage should be tracking with the leading employees. One customer betrayal travels along with the manager who caused it, to whatever company s/he touches. No matter how the company is named, no matter how much branding, one linked in api roll call later you know what you got.
This is a great idea! A while back I had an idea to maybe scrape Linkedin(or download one of their numerous dumps) to help "track" executive movement from company to company and set alerts if I use products from the new company so I can have a heads up before they inevitably turn to shit. Alternatively, I was also looking to expand this to when companies get bought out by those vulture capital "management" firms as t…
Can’t wait for the social credit score determining people’s career prospects!
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#70Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.
I've been receiving issues for my lifetime subscription to 2600 Magazine for well over 25 years.