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ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.

NFT has entered the chat. In all seriousness though, I think the only lifetime licenses that come to mind are probably ones like JetBrains and old software where you had the install medium on a disk and a key to install it with and it required no software updates, assuming the software doesn't need the internet to verify, you're pretty much guaranteed what you paid for. Don't you miss lifetime ownership of software l…

> NFT has entered the chat.

And how would they help in this situation?

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

#32

Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.

I’m impressed by the number of people that have long-running still active lifetime licenses!

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.

My early (2011) purchase of Apple's Final Cut Pro X has been pretty awesome. I originally bought the software using discounted iTunes gift cards so i paid around 200€ instead of 250. Nowadays it costs 350€.

There have been countless big updates, all for free. It can now edit 360° and multicam footage and many more features like object tracking and HDR support have been added for free. Just browse the long list of release notes at https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201237 and you'll get the idea.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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The part that blows my mind is they found someone willing to click send on a "life-time is now two years" mail. I personally couldn't stomach that & I'm definitely no paragon of virtue.

One of my clients has admin staff that would click send on "decapitate a random person in the world" if the boss tells them to.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

NFT has entered the chat. In all seriousness though, I think the only lifetime licenses that come to mind are probably ones like JetBrains and old software where you had the install medium on a disk and a key to install it with and it required no software updates, assuming the software doesn't need the internet to verify, you're pretty much guaranteed what you paid for. Don't you miss lifetime ownership of software l…

> NFT has entered the chat. And how would they help in this situation?

In practice after a few months the web server hosting your NFT's image goes down and it's broken.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

#37

Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.

I have a license for an MP3 tagging software called Tag&Rename from what's probably a one man shop called Softpointer that still works 14 years after purchase. I'd been using it for free for a few years at that point. The last release was in 2018 but it still does what I want. Maybe I'll buy another to show my support.

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Isn't this just breach of contract, plain and simple? Change of ownership should have little to do with it.

Most likely there is a clause that allows them to change the "Lifetime" subscription to anything they want.

The original language seems pretty clear that it was for all future versions.

https://forum.manycam.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/0/0da...

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Has any company’s “lifetime” license lasted more than, say 5 years? 10? (I mean for software that is updated or requires a server of course). I like the jetbrains model well enough.

Industrial software perpetual licenses are really perpetual. Those things will outlast the company that wrote them and they don’t have claw-back mechanisms

Re: ManyCam dishonored my lifetime license

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Happy Scale, a weight tracking app I really enjoy, had the opposite example: I bought a full license for some bucks some years ago, and later they decided to switch to a subscription based model to ensure funding. Instead of going the "hey, here is a new version of the app, you need to subscribe now", they explicitly included a thank-you note directed at everyone that bought the "Premium In-App Purchase" at the begin…

Blink Shell for iOS did something similar. I was very pleased - especially as I don’t use the app super often, but it’s really handy when I need it for 30 seconds here and there.

Now, because I have the “Blink Classic Plan”, I won’t get every new feature they introduce, but I won’t lose access for my original use case, which is great.

Definitely a nice touch from companies looking to build a community.

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