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Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Post by Rufbdbskrufb473 »

sharemywin wrote: post #330
Rufbdbskrufb473 wrote: post #244

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Servers and domains are one of the easiest things to buy with crypto. I actually just migrated away from Hetzner last week (for unrelated reasons) to two new providers to whom I'm paying crypto (no KYC required) based on this list: https://bitcoin-vps.com/

would be nice if you could pay in your own token.

I'm not sure to what you're referring by "your own token", but most do offer a range of popular tokens by using one of the 3rd party payment providers like Coingate.

I had paid for my servers with some Litecoin I have that I usually use for small purchases because of the low fees.

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Post by barrkel »

skybrian wrote: post #364
Analemma_ wrote: post #348

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> I think the reason is just inertia. It is not just inertia; it is government malice. The government loves that there are effectively only two payment processors, because this lets them exercise policy pressure without the inconvenience of a democratic mandate.

Yes, financial companies mostly regulate themselves. They have lawyers telling them what regulators are likely to approve of, and make rules based on that for themselves and their customers. If they do something sufficiently bad, regulators go after them. That’s how banks get regulated, too. That’s how most law works, actually. There’s a question of how detailed the regulations are, but mostly you don’t go to court,…

Part of the issue is that it's usually American regulators setting these rules, but they're applied globally due to the more-or-less duopoly of credit card companies.

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Post by rldjbpin »

anentropic wrote: post #288

If Apple would wake up to what's happening with llama.cpp etc then I don't see such a market in paying for remote access to big models via API, though it's currently the only game in town. Currently a Macbook has a Neural Engine that is sitting idle 99% of the time and only suitable for running limited models (poorly documented, opaque rules about what ops can be accelerated, a black box compiler [1] and an apparent…

I can see how the apple silicon memory system can help with LLMs, but a couple points of reality check:

- such amounts of memory is locked behind very expensive sku which even most of mac userbase will not use ( very conservative ). - not too long ago apple would restrict the amount of ram in their system for their own reasoning (source: https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/28/apple-macbook-pro-16gb-ram-li...) - just like mid 2010s gpus with 6-8 gb vram but with little to benefit from it, i don't see the ml accelerators/gpu in current models being capable enough to make the most of the memory available to it.

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Post by robertlagrant »

worik wrote: post #402
mschild wrote: post #274

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PayPal offers you a virtual account that you can pay money into. You can use that money to make purchases online, send and receive money from friends or other businesses. In effect, it acts like a bank account. However, it's not an actual bank account. In Europe, any money you put into that account is also not ensured by the government, like a normal account would. If I pay with a credit card, there are processes in…

I agree they should be regulated But they are nothing like a bank The feature of a bank is credit creation. Lending more money than they hold. Unless I missed some news PayPal does not do that

This is what I was wondering - to my understanding the main reason banks need to be regulated is to stop them over-lending.

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Post by robertlagrant »

nickpp wrote: post #416
worik wrote: post #401

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> But I am not placing any moral value on either greed or capitalism That is a missed opportunity * Capitalism: A system where who owns resources matters more tan who needs them is a morally bankrupt system. A system where starvation and homelessness is an acceptable outcome * Greed. Greed is bad for everybody. Concentrates scarce resources where they are not needed, that too is moral bankruptcy

Funny enough my country was starving under communism but we are living in plenty under capitalism. Since I lived under the alternative and I have seen its evilness, I will take capitalism any day - the very system that allowed and incentivized us to create those resources you are eyeing in the first place. As for greed, I have yet to meet a person more greedy than the ones claiming to know where to direct those scarc…

I'm glad you chimed in with this. This is the point: capitalism knows self-interest exists, and creates a system to harness it. Communism and similar pretend greed doesn't exist, and creates overly powerful central bodies to make everything fair.

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Post by robertlagrant »

nickpp wrote: post #218
robertlagrant wrote: post #194

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> I would think, however, that capitalists would not ignore such an obvious profit center as the sex industry Because you're conflating capitalism and greed. Capitalism doesn't mean "do anything for money". It means "as much as possible, people get to decide among themselves how to allocate their money and time". Some of them will invest in anything, just as people in non-capitalist countries. Most will only invest i…

But look at how investment in weed, which was once considered "drugs == bad", flourished after legalization, with ETFs and such. Lots of sex work, including porn, is legal afaik. However banks and other civilian gate holders (Apple AppStore, etc) keep stifling investment in it.

I'm sorry, I don't see how that relates to what I was saying.

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Post by rasz »

rnk wrote: post #448
anentropic wrote: post #414

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and we know that more will be cheaper in future

With the integrated ram and cpu and gpu on apple silicon, however it's done it yields perf results. I do think that probably has higher cost than separately produced ram. And even separate from that, because they have that unified memory model unlike every other consumer device they can charge for it. So 64, 96 or 128 gb?

Its not done for perf results, Xbox doesnt have ram on package and somehow does 560 GB/s

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Post by rasz »

alberth wrote: post #98

Google invested $400M into Anthropic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34663438 Investors include: - Eric Schmidt (former Google CEO/Chairman), Series A - Sam Bankman-Fried, lead investor in Series B - Caroline Ellison, Series B https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34664963

thats less than they invested in Magic Leap :)

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Post by d4rkp4ttern »

freediver wrote: post #252

claude-instant-v1 is one of the "best kept secrets". It is comperable in quality to gpt-3.5-turno, while being four times faster (!) and at half the price (!). We just released a minimal python library PyLLMs [1] to simplify using various LLMs (openai, anthropic, AI21..) and as a part of that we designed a LLM benchmark. All open source. [1] https://github.com/kagisearch/pyllms/tree/main#benchmarks

Could PyLLMs connect to a locally running LLM (e.g, llama variant)?
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