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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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> “Instead of getting help with the real mental problems she was experiencing, she was persuaded and kept mentally ill with pseudoscience and superstition,” said Parker. I wonder what modern day mass hysteria/social contagion we will remember in this way. Whatever it is you can bet lots of people will pretend they never engaged in it.

Qanon, most likely.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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post #86

I assume these satanic panic cases happened everywhere. In New Zealand, we had a kindergarten teacher who was convinced of preforming satanic rituals in a medieval style torture chamber in the basement of the kindergarten, There was even a network of secret tunnels. The building didn't even have a basement. That fact alone should have been a large enough clue that four-year-old kids can be unreliable witnesses if mis…

Sounds vaguely like the whole pizzagate conspiracy[0] as well. I even heard when the gunman went to Comet's Pizza he was confused that it didn't have a basement, though I can't find a reference to this.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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> I think it was Hermann Hesse who wrote that "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us." Funny coincidence that some of the most outspoken ANTI-LGBT people get caught doing the very things they claim to despise.

There's this website cataloguing such hypocrites for nearly 20 years running now -- https://gayhomophobe.com/

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post #27

In Norway, this fire was lit by a high ranking police officer in the state criminal police, it's "FBI". Many people was hurt, falsely convicted and many lives was destroyed. In the police, and in the child abuse industry, money was made and careers built on these lies. The police officer who brought this mental pest to Norway was eventually arrested, naked, hiding behind a bush in his neighbors garden - spying on a l…

> I think it was Hermann Hesse who wrote that "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us."

This sounds nice and pithy, but it's trivial to debunk. Beheading someone is not part of myself, but it most certainly disturbs me. And I certainly wouldn't be hating something in myself by hating someone who perpetrated such a grisly crime.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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post #94

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Just last week, when I was at a techno music gathering, a couple of my friends saw a guy in drag (it was more like over the top ball dress really) and were like "whoaa, did you see that". I had to remind them that we used to have scores of trannies attending these events in the past and and no one cared. But now, after the latest round of propaganda, we, as a society, fear them again.

Alternative cultures have always had alternative niches of events but clubbing in the early days, at least in Europe, was often largely a culture of acceptance. Age, gender, attire, whatever... acceptance was high. As I started to age and dance music became more popular and more commercialised, the number of safe, relaxed and accepting cubs started to shrink as club culture became normal culture. There are still alte…

Exactly. Even here in backwards Bulgaria we had large (as in thousands of people) electronic one-night music events where trans/cross/etc people would hang on ropes, perform stuff and generally have a good time along with everyone else.

Some of the best small time events 20 years ago were held in a popular gay. No one cared. No one.

Now it's 2023 and extremists on both ends are accusing you of either showing too much respect to the "weirdos", or not using the most up to date and precise language to describe things that are murky to begin with.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Maybe this is why I am being downvoted. What should I use instead? I don't exactly follow the waves of nuspeak

Are you seriously equating treating people with respect with nuspeak? The post you replied to already answered your question. I'm just going to suggest that you should focus more on respecting others and less on thinking you're debating.

My apologies. It was an honest question but I can see how it might be taken as something more than that. A link to wiki was not what I asked for.

Since we're giving each other life advices, I suggest one spoon of not jumping to conclusions. You're not exactly showing much respect for me here.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Do you really not notice that you are right now, in that comment participating in a moral panic?

This is too complex to summarize in one sentence, especially after parts of the US political right have adopted the tactics of the extreme left. But summarizing, the hundreds of people who have lost their jobs over false allegations of e.g. racism or different forms of political incorrectness - such as quoting certain texts during a History lecture - would not agree with you. Thankfully they weren’t thrown in prison…

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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post #81

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Tavistock also were not performing surgeries on children. Trans people often don't even receive hormones until they're 16, I don't know how this idea that they're receiving surgery on a whim makes any sense to anyone.

Bullshit, 16 would be too late for hormone blockers. The blockers are also said to prevent the kids from adapting to their biological gender, leading onto a path to surgery. I am amazed how willing to lie people are in this forum.

As a very rough rule of thumb, if it comes in pill form, it's probably not surgery.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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post #81

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Tavistock also were not performing surgeries on children. Trans people often don't even receive hormones until they're 16, I don't know how this idea that they're receiving surgery on a whim makes any sense to anyone.

Bullshit, 16 would be too late for hormone blockers. The blockers are also said to prevent the kids from adapting to their biological gender, leading onto a path to surgery. I am amazed how willing to lie people are in this forum.

chownie said hormones, e.g. testosterone/estrogen, not hormone blockers. You're right, 16 would be too late for most for hormone blockers, and as such it causes immense harm when trans children are prevented from getting blockers earlier, because it causes irreversible changes to occur that strongly correlates with massively increased rates of harmful outcomes (up to and including suicides).

> The blockers are also said to prevent the kids from adapting to their biological gender, leading onto a path to surgery.

Ah, "it is said".

> I am amazed how willing to lie people are in this forum.

Maybe drop the unfounded accusations when you're the one attacking someone for a claim they've not made.

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