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Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Does the governor not need to sign it? Or has it been signed already? Because I wouldn't be celebrating yet until it's signed into law (if even then). NY's right to repair law was destroyed at the governor's desk at the 11th hour. [1]

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/29/23530733/right-to-repair...

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Does the governor not need to sign it? Or has it been signed already? Because I wouldn't be celebrating yet until it's signed into law (if even then). NY's right to repair law was destroyed at the governor's desk at the 11th hour. [1] [1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/29/23530733/right-to-repair...

Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic:

* In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it

* Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Does the governor not need to sign it? Or has it been signed already? Because I wouldn't be celebrating yet until it's signed into law (if even then). NY's right to repair law was destroyed at the governor's desk at the 11th hour. [1] [1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/29/23530733/right-to-repair...

Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic: * In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it * Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it

W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it.

The second one is nice to hear though.

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic: * In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it * Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it

W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.

I was about to say the same. It appears the NY bill was ineffective from the jump and wouldn't have amounted to more than pageantry for the companies refusing to give such rights. It was a good thing that is was killed at the last minute.

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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But will John Deere do what Apple did? Here’s one example:

“Apple shipped me a 79-pound iPhone repair kit to fix a 1.1-ounce battery”

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/21/23079058/apple-self-servi...

“I’m starting to think Apple doesn’t want us to repair them”

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic: * In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it * Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it

W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.

New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.

New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.

Do you have links about this?

I was extremely disappointed [1] when I learned about Hochul's last minute nerfing of right to repair and I'd be curious to learn more how the governors office acquired that power. IANAL but thought separation of powers was supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitutions, both US and NY. What happened?

[1] https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840

Re: Colorado passes agricultural Right to Repair

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I suspect that John Deere and friends will find a way to challenge this in court and -- if they eventually lose -- find a way to maliciously comply with the law. Their behavior has been actively hostile to their customers for years, and they have zero incentive to change.

Like Apple's repair kits mentioned in another comment, I suspect their strategy will involve providing tools that cost nearly as much to rent as it would take to buy a new machine. Then, only the most well-capitalized farmers will be able to afford to lock up the extraordinary amounts of cash required to perform their own repairs.

Without legislation that absolutely eviscerates their monopolistic business practices, I would be shocked if anything changes for the average farmer.

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