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Same experience with Browsers. Only Surf never dies.
https://surf.suckless.org/ ah, the memories this + dwn https://dwm.suckless.org/ then I said to myself "why am I wasting so much time tinkering with stuff that gains me nothing" and moved on in my life
FreeBSD 13.2
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Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#92I tried FreeBSD on ARM64. I couldn't get the browsers, like Firefox or Epiphany, to load without crashing. I'm not sure if it was something I was doing wrong or if the ARM ecosystem just isn't well supported yet. I was also running in a VM with QEMU. On the surface, FreeBSD sounds cool. I liked that I could boot directly to a console and then run the GUI only if I wanted to. Everything felt more modular. It reminded…
> I liked that I could boot directly to a console and then run the GUI only if I wanted to. You can do that in Linux... > Only I'm not sure I'd be able to use it as a daily driver. I felt like I'd be spending my time administering the machine and nothing else. Not really? I think the BSDs are simpler, change less and are better documented. Source: I ran OpenBSD on desktops in early 2000s.
> Source: I ran OpenBSD on desktops in early 2000s.
From my experience witb BSDs on a SUN pizza box (also around 2000) : FreeBSD had the docs on the internet, not very helpful when you want to configure the network. OpenBSD was ok. Linux (my first choice) was slow as hell.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same experience with Browsers. Only Surf never dies.
https://surf.suckless.org/ ah, the memories this + dwn https://dwm.suckless.org/ then I said to myself "why am I wasting so much time tinkering with stuff that gains me nothing" and moved on in my life
I think it also helps that I've never really tinkered with it. I took someone's build that had a few things I wanted, and I think that's it. In contrast, I spend more time on a regular desktop environment setting up shortcuts.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#94Does anyone here run FreeBSD on the desktop? If so, can you explain why you prefer it to Linux?
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
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Have a look at void Linux. I was a long time freebsd user until I really needed some proprietary software (zoom) in the pandemic. Switched to void and it is the same freebsd feeling, but with much better hardware support. And with my beloved ZFS!
I believe it runs fine in any browser with WebRTC support.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
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I used Arch for a number of years before switching to a Mac when I went back to school. At some point I may go back to Linux or FreeBSD (I've used both!) but I'll never go back to rolling releases. The whole reason I switched to Mac was that I got tired of things breaking constantly due to the never-ending updates. And if you put things off then you end up getting a whole lot of breakage all at once. No, I would pref…
Similarly I found Arch particularly badly suited for multiboot systems where one might spend extended periods of time not booted into Arch. Too often I'd reboot into Arch and run updates which would break the install somehow. Fedora has been a decent in-between in my experience. Packages are reasonably up to date and updates are frequent, but I've never had a few weeks of accumulated updates break things which is nic…
I only use windows to play games. But frankly, my personal laptop is used mostly for that, if at all. I have a work laptop provided to me for work stuff.
I still tend to use Ubuntu for the occasional freelance, research or teaching work I do though.
I’m not an evangelist on OS. I’ve used centos, fedora, Debian, mint, elementaryos and even for a time was swapping out DEs for window manager things like awesomeWM.
But at this stage in the game I’m too lazy to tinker with making the OS work. And Ubuntu tends to do well with mixed hardware such as having iris xe and nvidia chips on a single board. So I went with that.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I liked that I could boot directly to a console and then run the GUI only if I wanted to. You can do that in Linux... > Only I'm not sure I'd be able to use it as a daily driver. I felt like I'd be spending my time administering the machine and nothing else. Not really? I think the BSDs are simpler, change less and are better documented. Source: I ran OpenBSD on desktops in early 2000s.
> I think the BSDs are simpler, change less and are better documented > Source: I ran OpenBSD on desktops in early 2000s. From my experience witb BSDs on a SUN pizza box (also around 2000) : FreeBSD had the docs on the internet, not very helpful when you want to configure the network. OpenBSD was ok. Linux (my first choice) was slow as hell.
RTFM will go a very, very long way on this OS.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
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I used Arch for a number of years before switching to a Mac when I went back to school. At some point I may go back to Linux or FreeBSD (I've used both!) but I'll never go back to rolling releases. The whole reason I switched to Mac was that I got tired of things breaking constantly due to the never-ending updates. And if you put things off then you end up getting a whole lot of breakage all at once. No, I would pref…
The only sane Linux setup for a workstation is an immutable distro like Silverblue/Kinoite, and an Arch Linux toolbox (or any distro you prefer). I will die on this hill, and whoever disagrees has never tried what honestly feels like the future. My Linux PC is as stable and reproducible as my iPhone. One day I will finish my Fedora Silverblue master guide that has been a draft for months... (No, sorry, NixOS ain't be…
I had never even heard these before! This sounds exactly like what I want!
One day I will finish my Fedora Silverblue master guide that has been a draft for months...
I would love to read it!
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think the BSDs are simpler, change less and are better documented > Source: I ran OpenBSD on desktops in early 2000s. From my experience witb BSDs on a SUN pizza box (also around 2000) : FreeBSD had the docs on the internet, not very helpful when you want to configure the network. OpenBSD was ok. Linux (my first choice) was slow as hell.
As a current OpenBSD user, the man pages absolutely blow Linux out of the water. RTFM will go a very, very long way on this OS.
Re: FreeBSD 13.2
#100I tried FreeBSD on ARM64. I couldn't get the browsers, like Firefox or Epiphany, to load without crashing. I'm not sure if it was something I was doing wrong or if the ARM ecosystem just isn't well supported yet. I was also running in a VM with QEMU. On the surface, FreeBSD sounds cool. I liked that I could boot directly to a console and then run the GUI only if I wanted to. Everything felt more modular. It reminded…
If you're going to run it in a VM, why ARM?
For simple console stuff on the terminal, it's ok. But when the GUI is involved, or anything with a lot of computation, having to translate all of the instructions from native ARM64 back to x86/64 and back takes a ton of resources and time.