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Make Something Wonderful – Steve Jobs in his own words

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In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depiction given how advanced Apple's tech is. Though the vision and leadership that keeps Apple on top to this day probably can't be given by extraterrestrials.

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From the outside looking in, founder CEO’s like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are enigmas. They are able to convince the most brilliant human beings to devote their lives to them. That’s their real talent. Their belief in their mission is so strong and their confidence is unshakable. I wonder what mix of nurture and nature produces human beings like this. Out of billions of people, a handful are born this way.

Cults. Jobs woudln't be nothing without Woz and without Unix and even GNU/Linux' raise in late 90's.

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With celebrities like Steve Jobs we have a lot of interviews, autobiographies and data available. It would be interesting to finetune a LLM using all this data to act like him. Then you add TTS with his voice and voilà: Your personal Steve Jobs personal advisor running on your GPGPU or even phone, eventually. Makes you wonder if there will be laws against doing this without permission eventually. It's kind of hard to…

Seems like pretty straightforward exploitation akin to deepfakes.

A repository of his work that you can search and work with would be perfectly reasonable though (similar to https://huberman.rile.yt/).

EDIT: Apparently it already exists.

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post #11

In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depiction given how advanced Apple's tech is. Though the vision and leadership that keeps Apple on top to this day probably can't be given by extraterrestrials.

Apple tech was not advanced. Back in the day Mac OS 9 was inferior to NT and years behind Linux 2.4 in stability and security.

What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's.

You are basically using a rehashed NeXT environment with the Mac GUI on top.

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From the outside looking in, founder CEO’s like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are enigmas. They are able to convince the most brilliant human beings to devote their lives to them. That’s their real talent. Their belief in their mission is so strong and their confidence is unshakable. I wonder what mix of nurture and nature produces human beings like this. Out of billions of people, a handful are born this way.

> Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are enigmas

Elon is listening to the music inside his own head. He has the right people working for him, and he's often mistakenly seen as the person who takes all the credit, but he's sitting on the work of countless engineers who work painstakingly to create his product range. As for Jobs, again, sitting on the work of countless designers and product people who make Apple what it is. Jobs & Musk are only genius tier people insofar as they piggyback on others hard work.

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From the outside looking in, founder CEO’s like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are enigmas. They are able to convince the most brilliant human beings to devote their lives to them. That’s their real talent. Their belief in their mission is so strong and their confidence is unshakable. I wonder what mix of nurture and nature produces human beings like this. Out of billions of people, a handful are born this way.

Cults. Jobs woudln't be nothing without Woz and without Unix and even GNU/Linux' raise in late 90's.

Jobs would certainly still be something without Woz, he just wouldn't be the Steve we know from Apple.

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It's amazing how much "mystique" is assigned to a man who's success can probably be at least 75% attributed to just being an enthusiast about his own products in a business world where it's usually limited to the founding members. How many CEOs, product managers and the like have been caught promoting their own brand with a "tweeted from iPhone" tagline. Probably "efficient business people", but literally won't touch…

The more I read about Steve Jobs, the most I'm convinced he was potent mixture of persuasive and picky. I'm sure there was business sense, making some good bets, and the usual. But I think the key was him always saying we can do better. Makes him a real pain to work with, but you get good stuff as a result.

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post #11

In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depiction given how advanced Apple's tech is. Though the vision and leadership that keeps Apple on top to this day probably can't be given by extraterrestrials.

Apple tech was not advanced. Back in the day Mac OS 9 was inferior to NT and years behind Linux 2.4 in stability and security. What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. You are basically using a rehashed NeXT environment with the Mac GUI on top.

Stolen? Do you mean purchased?

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It's amazing how much "mystique" is assigned to a man who's success can probably be at least 75% attributed to just being an enthusiast about his own products in a business world where it's usually limited to the founding members. How many CEOs, product managers and the like have been caught promoting their own brand with a "tweeted from iPhone" tagline. Probably "efficient business people", but literally won't touch…

But the thing is, we all tolerate things which are sheer crap, if viewed through a different set of lenses. For example, you probably tolerate many things that I personally would consider rubbish, and vice versa. You say it’s trivial to have good taste, but it’s not trivial at all. My point is, many of us would have thought the plastic screen was fine, and that wasn’t because we weren’t “enthusiastic” about our own p…

> This attitudes extends to so many different areas, especially in technology, where hostility to good taste and style is often seen as something to be lauded, with the idea that somehow, technical brilliance and design chops are inversely correlated and can’t co-exist.

There's a fair chance I've misread the situation, but I don't think it's good taste and style is what's being pushed back against in these situations. It's all of the other things that so often get bundled with glossy UI — aesthetics-above-all-else design, UI as branding, gratuitous amounts of badly written analytics JS added by non-engineers, NIH syndrome, trend chasing, etc.

Most people I think aren't opposed to well designed UI that incorporates a central tenet of Jobs', which is that design is functionality and not purely visual, but this is staggeringly unusual to the point that something idiosyncratic but simplistic (like the HN UI) is a safer bet.

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In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depiction given how advanced Apple's tech is. Though the vision and leadership that keeps Apple on top to this day probably can't be given by extraterrestrials.

Apple tech was not advanced. Back in the day Mac OS 9 was inferior to NT and years behind Linux 2.4 in stability and security. What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. You are basically using a rehashed NeXT environment with the Mac GUI on top.

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