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Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by Shish2k »

nicpottier wrote: post #219
Shish2k wrote: post #217

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> This isn't going to happen for any number of reasons I label it an “outlandish prediction” because that’s exactly what people said about AI taking creative jobs — based on the technology at the time it was totally impossible, and then one technological breakthrough later, it’s an everyday occurence :P

The world of bits and bytes is a lot easier and faster to change than the world of hammers and nails.

“If it breaks, throwing it out and buying a new one is cheaper than getting it repaired” has been true of many physical items for decades already - that part isn’t even a future prediction. Doing that on the scale of a whole house is a leap, but if you want an example from the world of hammers and nails, how many people are paying the $100 call-out fee for a tradesperson to come and fix an issue with their $50 IKEA shelves?

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by nicpottier »

Shish2k wrote: post #271
nicpottier wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The world of bits and bytes is a lot easier and faster to change than the world of hammers and nails.

“If it breaks, throwing it out and buying a new one is cheaper than getting it repaired” has been true of many physical items for decades already - that part isn’t even a future prediction. Doing that on the scale of a whole house is a leap, but if you want an example from the world of hammers and nails, how many people are paying the $100 call-out fee for a tradesperson to come and fix an issue with their $50 IKEA s…

I'm not sure what we are debating here. On one hand you said your prediction was fantastical but then you are trying to defend it? Plumbing and bookshelves are really different things. One has to be built in place and is completely custom, the other is a consumer item. You can draw parallels if you want but it doesn't make it a strong argument.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by bko »

alwaysbeconsing wrote: post #264
QuiDortDine wrote: post #77

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As horrified as I am for people whose jobs will be lost (including mine, quite possibly), "content" is such a plague on humanity I'm glad it will soon be devalued into the ground. Moutains of useless tweets and blog posts will be rendered meaningless when ChatGPT has all the answers. Dust to dust.

It's not going to go away, though. If anything, the future looks like lower quality and higher quantity. The usefulness of ChatGPT's (and its successors') answers also depend on their inputs. In the limit, if there were no humans producing new material, there would also be nothing new that ChatGPT version N could tell you.

There doesn't need to be new material. Just mechanism to segregate between good and bad and that will always exist if humans are interesting.

LLMs use reinforcement learning once they have a base understanding of words. It's like how modern chess engines don't analyze games, just play against themselves.

LLMs go even further where they train a model to judge what people would deem to be high quality, so it's another layer

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by smakmur »

abtinf wrote: post #65

> This client is my main source of income, he’s a marketer who outsources the majority of his copy and content writing to me. Today he emailed saying that although he knows AI’s work isn’t nearly as good as mine, he can’t ignore the profit margin. A core assumption is that his client will succeed with this change. Only time will tell. A thousand different outcomes are possible: the downstream client is upset by the r…

As someone who manages our own brand's social media, and just started using ChatGPT, I was surprised ChatGPT could provide with captions that are pretty good and moderately inspiring. Try it out yourself. Definitely a timesaver and cost-reduction

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by brewdad »

jschveibinz wrote: post #260
QuiDortDine wrote: post #102

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> It’s something people love to be, but in a world with recorded audio, you don’t need as many musicians as you once needed (and it was actually a fairly common job). I do wonder if people are going to start valuing in-person experiences more and more, as anything on the internet can now be faked (or AI-generation, which, artistically speaking, is close to the same thing). If we do, might we see a boom of live perfor…

The past 30 years have resulted in an erosion of in-person experiences. People used to be social: clubs, bowling, movies, whatever. Now people even work from home. People prefer to be in their houses on their computers and to interact with “others” (people, bots, videos of people doing things) from their favorite chair. I don’t think in-person experiences are coming back any time soon unless there is some sort of maj…

The problem with in-person experiences is other people. If we could solve that problem, the experience would be greatly improved. :)

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by eleitl »

oceanplexian wrote: post #202
albertopv wrote: post #130

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Until that jobs is yours, because not everyone is an AI scientist/developer. Prepare for social unrest.

Where I live, at lest in a medium-sized town in the US, there's a huge amount of work in hospitality, construction, skilled trades, healthcare, and every other field you can imagine. The only commonality is that none of those careers include "making content" or "social media". It's like at some point during the COVID pandemic people forgot that everyone can't sit at a computer.

Hospitality and healthcare occupations are doing badly in much of the Western World. Construction is highly seasonal, and arguably much of it is currently driven by an investment bubble rather than organic demand which could pop, ending in a long winter. Skilled trades, maybe, but you need a healthy job market so that people can afford these.

While these occupations are safe from AI, for time being, they're not safe per se.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by ryzvonusef »

something similar in the art world:

https://restofworld.org/2023/ai-image-china-video-game-layof...

    > Freelance illustrator Amber Yu used to make 3,000 to 7,000 yuan ($430 to $1,000) for every video game poster she drew. Making the promotional posters, published on social media to attract players and introduce new features, was skill-intensive and time-consuming. Once, she spent an entire week completing one illustration of a woman dressed in traditional Chinese attire performing a lion dance — first making a sketch on Adobe Photoshop, then carefully refining the outlines and adding colors. 

    > But since February, these job opportunities have vanished, Yu told Rest of World. Gaming companies, equipped with AI image generators, can create a similar illustration in seconds. Yu said they now simply offer to commission her for small fixes, like tweaking the lighting and skewed body parts, for a tenth of her original rate.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by brewdad »

mjr00 wrote: post #222
midoridensha wrote: post #140

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>But a lot of output is very much winner-take-all: music, movies, TV. If you look at the state of current movies and TV shows, ChatGPT could do a much better job than today's writers. Heck, some high school kids could do a better job.

Could you provide an example of a hit TV show or $100m+ grossing movie that was written by ChatGPT?

I'm not aware of any but surely Top Gun:Maverick could have been written that way and come out largely the same, at least as far as the script is concerned.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Post by brewdad »

heyyyouu wrote: post #261
ranguna wrote: post #143

So this person lost his job to an AI because it's way cheaper and slightly worse. Why not hire chatgpt yourself? Instead of resigning because of chatgpt, use it for your advantage. Instead of taking 10 clients, take 100 at 10x less your usual price. You literally have the cheapest and best sidekick money can buy. The industrial revolution ended a lot of jobs but also started new ones. Like inventing, managing and mai…

You don't own ChatGPT output -- you can't legally sell it to others. You also, by the services terms of use, have to source when something is partially or fully written by ChatGPT.

Psh. Details.
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