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I worked at Google for -10 days

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Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by dunkelsten »

onion2k wrote: post #10

Having an offer rescinded for 'business reasons' is unbelievably annoying, and the author has my sympathy. That said, it's kind of understandable too. Things happen. The landscape changes. Some people will be affected. You kind of have to roll with it sometimes. I wish the author the best of luck finding something else quickly. What I find truly incredible though is that it took a full year to go from application to…

The larger the company, the longer the process. We got into Amazon as a supplier only because they figured it would take them at least a year until they would have hired the first person starting to tackle the topic internally…

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by ghaff »

darknavi wrote: post #21
glitchc wrote: post #2

Is your visa still valid? If so, move to London anyways. You've already quit your job and sold your stuff. Chances are if you qualified for Google, you'll find work there. In for a penny, in for a pound, as the Brits say.

It's definitely possible to thrive here but moving somewhere with a _much_ higher cost of living without having a job is a bold move.

And, to be frank (if sympathetic), I'm not sure unemployed Russian wanting to move to London has the strongest hand to play right now, even if the software developer job market is still reasonably strong.

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Post by kmm »

duxup wrote: post #18

> I held a “garage sale” (in Russian) and sold most of my belongings. Does this mean the Russian term is garage sale? I’m amused that in the US we use that term too.

I think he means the link will go to a page in Russian. Though the Russian term is indeed гаражная распродажа, which indeed just translates word-for-word to "garage sale"

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Post by champagnepapi »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #29
sashank_1509 wrote: post #7

There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen. I’ll lay out the reasons below: 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. 2. Ban revoking offers only for overseas em…

> 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. The problem isn't quality of candidate, the problem is unknown business changes. Sitting on your hands for 10 rounds vs 5 won't fix those unknowns. Certainly companies might respond…

Agreed, I don't think there would be any benefit to increase the number of rounds. Guessing there would be no extra signal with the marginal rounds, but candidate frustration would be through the roof. I'm already frustrated with 5 ha.

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Post by l33t233372 »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #7

There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen. I’ll lay out the reasons below: 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. 2. Ban revoking offers only for overseas em…

> Ban revoking offers only for overseas employees (who are hurt most by this). This will ensure that the hiring bar for overseas employees is set sky high and it will already be harder for them to compete

Laws are generally created to benefit people who are not described as “overseas”

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Post by shortrounddev »

It was enlightening to me when I started applying to jobs to find out that the companies which were renowned for their innovation and productivity had a several week, 5-stage+, committee-based hiring process that made you feel like a sow getting its haunches graded before slaughter

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Post by asveikau »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #7

There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen. I’ll lay out the reasons below: 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. 2. Ban revoking offers only for overseas em…

Please see: https://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-professor-mass-layo...

I felt the same way about the big tech layoffs and hiring freezes in 2008-2009. (Followed by huge, across the board, non-merit based salary boosts in 2010 and a hot job market to follow.)

For the startups maybe it's a different calculus, but for the big guys they're mostly doing fine and it's not really about cutting costs. It's that some group of consensus-makers decided that laying off is the appropriate, responsible, even inevitable trend in business.

Relatedly, when the socially acceptable thing was to over-hire blindly, few people called them out.

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Post by kdmccormick »

no-2-wk-notice wrote: post #35
Aardwolf wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how you could practically do that since there's usually a notice period to leave the previous company, and the contract may exclude working for two employers at the same time

Just don't give notice until the day you start at the new company.

Seems like a good way to incinerate your professional relationship with your outgoing manager. I guess if you would never use them for a reference anyway, that's fine, but what if you do want to use them as a reference in the future?

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Post by jmye »

tyingq wrote: post #17

I've heard several stories about companies rescinding offers in a timeframe where it's obvious the candidate would have already made irreversible decisions. Funny thing is that the same HR people will tell their own stories about candidates backing out with huge eyerolls, distain, etc. I suppose the more common it becomes, the less the "offer" process will mean in practice. Candidates will hedge their bets. Edit: If…

> I suppose the more common it becomes, the less the "offer" process will mean in practice. Candidates will hedge their bets.

My partner was shocked I was still interviewing after accepting an offer - this kind of story is generally why. Sucks for the hiring managers, I guess, but I care more about my mortgage/income/whatever than their time.

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